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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Democrats are literally controlled-opposition

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

MTG is far more welcome in her party than AOC is in hers.

The neoliberal DNC sees the Republicans as their esteemed opposition, as they are on the same take and have the same orders on Economic policy. They see spoilers like AOC, who are not on the corpo bribe train and for profound economic policy changes, as their enemy.

https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/04/15/nancy-pelosi-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-481704

The Democrats, almost all of them save a couple of spoilers, aren't the fascists themselves, but they've spent the last half century enabling the fascists. The Democrats don't care about entire industries of confidence schemes murdering Americans like our deathcare industry, they don't care about poor kids getting a good education, and they dont care about millions of our most betrayed neighbors dying in the streets. As the bad cop Fascists brag about how much they love the schaudenfreude of the pain those people are in, the good cop neoliberals shrug "free market forces, sorry! But I do affirm your identity, homeless dying/lifesaving healthcare denied person!"

That's why there really isn't hope until we collapse, hopefully by our hands in revolution and not by oligarch made climate change in a couple decades. Best, best, best, best case scenario, we have a real election in 3. 5 years and the Neoliberals gain power, do NOTHING to reign in the oligarchs, income inequity, or our sociopathic, murderous capital markets as they're gleefully paid not to do. Fascism is the takeover of the state to serve big capital's need for ever moar, and so the table will remain set to go back on the fascist march in just another 4 years.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (14 children)

AOC is progressive, not a neoliberal. Saying liberals want universal healthcare is a straight up LIE

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These are wildly opposite and anyone who says AOC isn't a real representation of DNC must also find a more GOP aligned member, like Mike Johnson or Steve Scalise. They are despicable but not all-caps-tweets kind of despicable.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

AOC is the only representation of the DNC. Hope she unseats Schumer, becomes leader of the democratic party, and down the line runs for President. She will be the best president America have had.

I do not hope she runs for President next time though, as my thoughts of Americans are very low, and i believe them to be too bigoted to vote for her yet. yet.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (23 children)

And yet when the legislature arrives to give us free Healthcare the Democrats don't pass it despite having a majority.

Both sides aren't the same, but their choices produce the same results.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's always conveniently a cohort of Dems that vote against party lines. Every. Time. Then they can shrug and say "welp, we tried".

Two sides of the same capitalist shit sandwich.

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

POSIWID

I made a ven-diagram to help explain

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Real good effort, but it's missing a chunk of "what they actually do" that's not part of "what they say they want". And there's too much overlap between "what the donors want" and "literally just opposing fascism". Cuz at some point that would entail cooling it a bit with the neoliberal economics driving regular people into misery for slightly better profits.

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[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (30 children)

In a vacuum like this using the best and worst (dumbest?) example from each party.

But both parties as a whole serve the interest of capital. Their methods might be different. Their indirect/direct use of violence might be different. But they serve the same people with the same interest. AOC and Bernie are even saying that now. They've been criticizing the democratic party at all of their events.

Can the liberals stop pretending we can vote our way out of facism and please fucking join us on the left. Fucking please.

Fascism is here. Due process is gone. First amendment is gone. If you're waiting to vote again you're no different than someone in Russia thinking they can vote Putin out of power.

Grab a pitchfork (metaphorically speaking) and get organized.

Join PSL or DSA or anyone in your area resisting ICE. Now. Do it now.

Edit: For every downvote please comment with a different organization resisting ICE and organizing locally. Because if it's just criticism of the groups that ARE resisting it's not helping. Give people an alternative. I would LOVE people just listing groups that are resisting ICE in your area or nationally. Because that's all I want.

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