Honestly we’ve been fucked since 2016.
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From my perspective in Canada, there’s nothing the US can do to unfuck this situation.
Let’s say folks unseated Comrade Spraytan somehow and reversed all of his policies. I would still never trust their country again with economic or security dependence in the way that much of the world has enabled in the status quo.
It was the American voters who selected this foolishness, not once but twice. They and their country will not be trusted for a generation or maybe longer. They threw away a very good thing for them because of abject greed, and now it’s gone forever.
As an American I know I will never look at America or other people the same way again. The last few months have opened me to ideas I never considered before and have completely changed how I view myself and even the people I used to trust. This is certainly the Gen Y/Z generation-wide trauma event. I'm not sure the AIDS epidemic was even this bad. Government negligence is one thing. This is complete disregard for the law.
I have news for you if you think the aids epidemic was negligent and not intentionally reckless because it was a "homosexual" disease.
There's a lot of money to be made by selling stuff to the US. I'll be surprised if Canadian companies and trading agreements didn't revert to their pre-Trump arrangements within a few years of him leaving office.
And the problem isn’t Trump but rather the 30-40% that voted fir him
That 30-ish% (or more) of Americans like and support fascism is a real problem. Its been a real problem for... roughly all of human history that 1/3 of us are selfish monsters that lack empathy.
Trump stole the election. He announced he would, his lackeys did extensive voter suppression work, and then he bragged about doing it afterwards. He didn't win a fair election, and it's disgusting that the narratives have fully blown past that.
The wealthiest people on Earth believe that we're in an "end game" of some sort, and that now is the time to do everything in their considerable power to consolidate rule before the big collapse sets in. This isn't an America problem, it's a World Class War and the USA isnt even the first battlefield, just currently the most visible failure of the lower classes to fight back.
There's no way to have stolen the 2024 election that wouldn’t require thousands working in secret. He won because more voted for him than for Harris.
So are there thousands of trump cultists ruining america (by strategicaly placing themselves in positions of power like voting volunteers, judges, sheriffs, and so on) or not?
Are you suggesting 100 million people voted for Trump and then went home to celebrate but otherwise didn't do any fascist stuff? Didn't take over any PTA's to get books banned (documented) or take over any courts (some supreme ones even, perhaps) so that laws could be overturned and election decisions quickly made in Trump's favor?
Its a global class war the Australian Murdoch family is a huge reason Americans vote they way they do. Also it has bled into Canada. The freedom convoy and people like Lauren Southern are paid shills for foreign billionaires.
The Murdochs all have American citizenship and don’t live in Australia.
Literally only Rupert was born in Australia, all the others are from Britain and the US.
Literally
And Eastern European oligarchs and Middle Eastern oil tycoons who are bankrolling it. It's not an America thing lol
Not only an American thing. However it definitely is an American thing.
No the problem is ALL the about 75% that didn't vote against him.
They were fine with letting Trump win.
According to usnews.com (maybe not the most reputable source but),
64% of the voting-eligible population in the U.S. voted in the 2024 election.
Of those, who voted, 49.8% voted trump and 48.3% voted kamala.
That means 31.8% of eligible voters voted for trump, 30.912% voted for kamala, 0.012% voted other, and 36% didnt vote at all. That makes it ~~62-63%~~ 68% of eligible voters didnt vote against him.
Which isnt much better
30.912% voted for kamala
That makes 69.1% that didn't vote against Trump.
Or in very rough rounded numbers.
About half voted, about half of those voted against Trump. = 75% that didn't.
It was never meant to be an accurate number, but a ballpark rounded number. From 75 to 69 is 6% inaccurate. Good enough for the point I was trying to make. And more accurate numbers dont change the point in any way.
The point is a vast majority is OK with having a flaming fascist sociopath as president.
31%.
I need to hire you to summarize my lengthy pretentious blathering into a nice concise sentence. :)
Can we please stop with the mental gymnastics of 30% didn't vote 5% Tiger King and the rest got split between Harris and Trump?
The fact is that the majority of voters chose Trump, period. Now you guys need to get your shit together and fix this shitshow, but as others have said it already, the trust is gone.
The fact is that the majority of voters chose Trump, period
Except they didn't. Trump received 49.8% of the vote. The actual fact is the majority of voters chose someone else, they just didn't agree enough on who that someone else should be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
The point is Trump is not the only problem and the 40% or so that supports him also need addressing. The problem is hundreds of millions of people not just one or two.
This is how I see it as well. Its not about manufacturing either, you cant increase manufacturing during a recession when no one can afford anything and no one is willing to work low wages.
Driven by racism and hate. Trumpsterfire gave them permission to act like themselves.
A lot of people, Americans, didn't trust America before trump. America is getting played out and dragged across the ground by unholy people.
I heard someone say; Angels and Demons, I never knew you could see them.
It took time for me to understand the reality of that. Evil has humanity captured in its hand squeezing the life from its figurative body.
What's worse, ime, the same evil will use spirituality and uplifting talk to gather control of people while at the same time making moves behind the scene that are completely evil. The same way, it seems, that our government convinces people to lead simple lives directed by media and entertainment consumption, even politics, to the point that people wouldn't know how to live in honest reality if they tried. Real reality has been war. ...but everyone chose escapism and now look where we are.
No one wants to believe the heartlessness it will take, the heartlessness that good honest people will have to commit, all the while trying not to get addicted to the power that comes with heartlessness, to defeat what is going on.
America's already been dead and they are coming for the rest of you.
We have been at war for long time.
When you see evil with your own eyes you will probably understand that terms like the devil, evil, and unholy, are the most potent words that can describe them, regardless what your beliefs are.
They will do everything to uplift your life, just to tear it down and watch you suffer.
Something is going on, all the people that have dealt with gang stalking or corrupt government officials knows how dark it gets. Corruption is intertwined completely now into America and it can't be undone with law and politics.
This is an undeniable truth many people know but they either buckle and become one of them, go to jail when they snap from the torment brought to them by those that took advantage of them, or they kill themselves.
Evil reigns and people pay for it because it takes their mind off the truth. Ignorance is bliss and that bliss makes money and that money owns the world. You can buy governments with that money. And with stake in the government you can have soldiers fight battles for you regardless of authentic and genuine righteousness.
We were already completely fucked. We knew this in the 70's and reconfirmed it in 2023. With Trump reinstalled, we're extra super-duper double-stamp no-erasies fucked.
Martial law in maybe 5 days...
why. hes doing everything he could under martial law now without having to declare it.
Because April 20th was always the plan...
Likely because it's hitlers b-day.
Have you legitimately not heard that date between project 2025 leaking and now?
I kind of hope he does, so maybe the idiots that can do something will.
Might be a bit generous
Welp sure. Now what?
It always darkest before the dawn...
Wrenching the DNC from the neoliberals was a huge win, and means we're not only more likely to win the next election, we'll actually get someone willing to help while in office.
Without neoliberals fixing the primary, we're more likely to get a nominee that actually shares the same policy values as Dem voters.
With them in control of the party we had zero chance of actually winning, the best result with them was things just slowly got worse.
Wealth inequality exploded under Biden, and nothing was permanently fixed.
So today sucks, and so will a lot of days coming up, but shit...
At least there's a chance for shit to get better now
Wait, we wrenched the DNC from neolibs? When did that happen?
It didn't.
DNC chair election was in February, we got Ken Martin who was the state party chair of Minnesota.
Where he has a very long track record of not standing in the way of voters and giving them the most popular candidates by letting fair primaries happen.
There's a reason people haven't heard of that yet mainstream media suddenly started being ok with pointing out flaws of the DNC
Now that it's not beholden to billionaires, they want Dems to lose even tho the n xt four years will be a shit show
Billionaires will always pick a fascist over a progressive
Ken “we will take money from good billionaires” Martin is a neoliberal.
The DNC is in the same hands.
That's the only bad thing people can say about him lol...
It was a "gotcha question" during the chair campaign that was only asked to hurt his chances and help the neoliberals candidates.
The question:
Would you refuse donations from any billionaire?
Was bait, and he isn't a big enough idiot to fall for it.
"The only bad thing you can say about him is that he's happy to take orders from billionaires lol..." Is this meant to be a good thing for you?
"From the river to the sea" is a chant used by extremists to support the destruction of Israel. It is appalling to embrace this rhetoric in this statement, which also doesn't even acknowledge the slaughter of Israeli & American civilians.
https://x.com/kenmartin73/status/1711559578897252524
Cope all you want but he's pro-billionaire, pro-Israel, and more of the same. Time will show you this.
“The only bad thing you can say about him is that he’s happy to take orders from billionaires lol…” Is this meant to be a good thing for you?
He said he wouldn't refuse donations from any billionaire, because saying he would refuse donations from any billionaire would have prevented him from becoming DNC chair...
Cope
I've literally never seen that word used by someone making a rational argument, maybe someday it'll happen someday tho.
And yeah, he's so "pro Israel" that the state he was chair of is one of the few out of aipacs grasp
Have a nice life bud.
There needs to be a next election before any of that. I'm not being pessimistic; Trump is reenacting the Nazis' consolidation for power and he will go after free and fair elections. Hell, he's already started with the SAVE act. It's up to Americans whether this is right before dawn or the start of a long, long night.
I posted this elsewhere, but there's already enough "weirdness" that the 2024 election should at least be double checked. I'm a senior data scientist and ETA's reports are enough to at least raise my eyebrow. We need more comparisons to past elections to confirm that this is truly anomalous, but if that's shown, then we've got some real shit to deal with.
To say they hacked the tabulation machines to inject vote flipping code is a massive accusation, so that requires a lot of solid evidence and we don't have the smoking gun right now, but we do have possibly some shell casings at the scene.
He'll fight tooth and nail to make the next election go his way. Loss of majority means there's a chance he'll be held accountable and that's an unacceptable proposition for him.
By the midterms elections will be either rigged beyond repair or Trump will have consolidated so much power that Congress will be nothing more than window dressing. As a wise man once said. This isn't Orban-style "nice" authoritarianism; this is a full on full-speed fascist takeover of the United States.
Buy the ticket, take the ride! Are you tired of winning yet?