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[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 21 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Lots of comments complaining about restaurants not being inclusive, but it's unrealistic to expect others to bend to your needs.

I can't go to a vegan joint and get upset when they don't want to serve me a steak.

Nor can I het upset when a restaurant isn't Halal.

If you want vegan, go to a place that sells vegan food.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

In Italy, at “L'Isola della Pizza” in Rome, I asked the guy if I could get a pizza with salami, pepperoni, and sausage, and the guy was like “ah, American style!”

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 25 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Salami, pepperoni and sausage? What makes the first 2 not sausage and what is in your definition pure sausage?

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The honest answer is this: Salami (sliced salami), pepperoni (sliced spicy salami), and sausage (pre-cooked fennel-flavored uncased/crumbled pork sausage).

In the US, “sausage” tends to generically refer to uncured, fresh, or raw sausages, often really meaning “ground meat mixed with herbs and spices sometimes in a tube or casing (but not always).”

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Americans came up with the word hot dog then decided sausage should now mostly mean loose ground pork.

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Is it like the Italian American "shrimp scampi" where it's just the words for shrimp in two different languages? My understanding is that "salami" is just the Italian word for cured sausage.

Also, "pepperoni" is an Italian American word for a spicy salami that contains peppers, so it's just a type.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

lmao, it just keeps going deeper.

Chai tea 🤦‍♂️

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[–] judgyweevil@feddit.it 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Pepperoni is what gave it away

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago

I'll go ahead and recommend HappyCow for anyone looking for plant-based options outside of their home community.

They have a map where people can suggest places that have vegetarian or vegan options but are mostly omnivorous, or full on vegetarian or vegan restaurants, cafes, grocery stores, food trucks, you name it. I think HappyCow the company also verifies the places people upload so it's somewhat vetted.

I find that starting with HappyCow and then cross-referencing with Google Maps or OSM gives me the best results.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The French are right. When you have fabled cuisine, lauded all over the world as the gold standard… you get resistant to change. And rightfully so.

Putain, non, is indeed the proper response to said question.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 16 points 6 days ago (18 children)

So France is intolerant towards lactose intolerant people and towards those with specific ethical dietary preferences. And that rightfully so! Be an asshole towards others! It's "in" these days and Paris has been known for being trendy. /s

[–] arc@lemm.ee 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

French supermarkets all have very large and wide selection of "free from" style products for allergies and intolerances - gluten free, milk free. Plus vegan and vegetarian. In fact it would put most supermarkets in the US to shame. I also expect that many cafes in Paris cater for people with allergies.

So it's not that. More likely it's a surly waiter, or a tourist asking for something which is not on the menu and being upset by the answer.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Lactose intolerant people can drink black coffee, non?

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Yes.

If you can't drink milk, don't drink milk. Drink the coffee without the milk. Or drink water or wine or tea or whatever else they serve.
When did a lack of little luxury accommodations like these milk substitutes become intolerance?

Does stocking milk ethically require that you stock alternatives for those who want something like milk, but can't have it?

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Food snobs might be one of my least favorite types of humans there are. The minute I hear/see someone start talking about how they would never eat that or whatever other bullshit, is almost like I'm hearing them start talking about the good things Trump is doing for everyone. Let's never cross paths again, you're insufferable.

[–] RichardDegenne@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (20 children)

Either that, or oat milk isn't on the menu and he didn't have any.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 days ago

If they don't have oat milk, what should've they said?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

This never happened. They would have given him a cup of black coffee and said " bro you're in France now"

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Literally going to be flying to Paris today.

Good to know I guess lol.

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[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The waiter probably was conveying it's not on the menu or is out of stock. No big deal..

[–] Robbity@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Definitely not on the menu. Most people don't have milk in their coffee in France, and oat milk is even rarer. The default coffee experience, a small black coffee, is vegan on its own.

But I can appreciate the frustration. Oat milk is cheap and has low environmental impact, it would be good for it to be offered more widely, regardless of taste.

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[–] Auzy@aussie.zone 5 points 5 days ago

For extremely busy restaurants / cafe's where people are already waiting long periods, they probably don't want to overcomplicate things too, and increase the risk . They'd have to keep 2 different milk frothing machines, and every time a customer got sick, risk getting sued, whilst slowing down the efficiency of orders.

Whilst it might increase the number of potential customers, in practice, it might only have negatives

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