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Something something leftist infighting
One thing someone told me that I think is important: Trump (or whoever is actually running things) probably wants violent protests. That way, he can label everyone refusing a facist takeover as a terrorist and have them sent to El Salvador. He's toyed with the idea, so it's not absurd.
Both Stephen Miller and Jeffrey Clark have been saying that. They’re two of trumps top aides. Is something the have publicly stated they want the admin to do. First they said it for the southern border but they’ve also said protests like BLM should be enough to trigger the insurrection act.
Simultaneously, while I don't believe US citizens stand a single chance in hell against the full US military and law enforcement, I also don't really believe his regime and supporters are capable of quelling a real uprising so I'm not really an advocate for or against it unless elections actually aren't held.
I also see this from the perspective that other nation's electoral systems are in much worse shape than the US currently.
I've said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard...
It's just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It's like the people who thought China paid the tariffs...
The house is almost tied. That's who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents...
218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.
Let's see, take New York for example.
26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.
5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.
People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn't matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.
Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.
Apathetic morons who don't realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.
District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.
Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state... Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.
So, if you think that your vote for president doesn't matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you're a fucking moron who can't grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.
And don't get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.
Every fucking vote counts.
And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we'll keep getting the shit we deserve.
Apathetic morons who don't realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government
Maybe this was a typo, but there are actually 3 branches of government, and we're already in a constitutional crisis between the first and third
For retaking a chamber of congress to be significant in the fight against fascism it has to actually be functioning. If they were to impeach and convict (60 votes in the Senate and they currently only have 47), Trump could just say 'no' like he did to the SC. Even if they convicted and Trump didn't just say 'I ain't fucking leavin', a third of the country is still rabidly supportive of him. That'll impact who even can win seats in congress, and they would probably burn the national mall down this time
Libs need to get past their inability to see how the system has completely fallen apart.
History never ended, we should stop pretending like it did.
Surely the way to fix this broken system is to participate in it harder
When one of the flaws is that it's designed to only function as advertised if there's full participation, participating harder can make things less bad, and participating less can make things worse.
Either way, it's much easier to convince people to go out and vote than it is to convince them to take up arms in a revolution, kill their opponents, and risk being killed or imprisoned as a consequence. If your revolutionary faction can't gather enough people to win an election, then it doesn't have enough support to win a civil war without getting the police and military on its side, and that's not going to happen in the US.
it’s designed to only function as advertised if there’s full participation
Uh, what? Are you forgetting that suffrage was originally limited to land-owning men?
It was never designed for full participation - universal suffrage has been repeatedly rejected in favor of 'compromised' exclusions since our founding.
Our system has been quite literally designed to prevent full participation, idk where this idea comes from that full participation is somehow the true spirit of american democracy.
Either way, it’s much easier to convince people to go out and vote than it is to convince them to take up arms in a revolution, kill their opponents, and risk being killed or imprisoned as a consequence
It's not an exaggeration to say that basically every bit of progress for labor and democratic rights in the US has been won by violent struggle, and it's never been by a 'majority' of voters.
Thank you for taking the time to type this out. I wish the people who needed to read and turn it over in their head were willing and able.
It's time for reapportionment.
I want peaceful and lawful change. I'm open to other means.
i will work for peaceful change but i won't fight against my own allies
Don’t mistake your own countrymen for categorical allies
oh of course not
If you have an enemy that's trying to eradicate you, your choices at either to allow them to eradicate you, or to eradicate them first. Any middle ground will just bring you back to the same position you started in.
if you voted for kamala we probably wouldn't be one protest away from martial law and natural born citizens in gulags
Have you guys tried begging president Xi to save you? After all the color revolutions america has funded it would be hella funny for america to be saved by a color revolution.
I am all for violent revolution. There comes a point where violence is the only answer left to us, and we are at that point.
All the other bullshit aside, this isn't a hot take. This is the majority opinion on lemmy.
I am not an extreme leftist, as I hate gun control laws.
I don't know shit about the Middle East and don't want to know.
I think peaceful protests are a thing of the past. It's time for hateful protests. MAGA are the fucking enemy, and we are an occupied nation ... act like it. Sabotage MAGA effirts, disrupt them, infiltrate their echo chamber, but most importantly hurt them financially and make them cry like Elon Musk.
You can't topple Trump, he got elected ... it's done. These udiots need to stop issuing court orders on him, it wont do anything. Go after his street level goons and work up. Follow ICE around ... they get nervous when you do that. Why? They are just glorified TSA agents.
We will not vote our way out of this. Someone is eventually going to get brave and take 47 down... legally (of course).
I am not an extreme leftist, as I hate gun control laws.
If you go far left enough, you get your guns back.
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary
-Karl Marx
Buy a gun safe.
Put books in it.