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Everybody wants that edge of city and country feel. It makes them feel like they don't live in the city but they still have all the amenities a city offers close by. And thus the Suburban experiment was born and has ultimately destroyed north american cities and created an affordability crisis for housing.
well you can't blame it all on "living on the edge of a city". IMO HOAs have done a substantial part of the harm, creating the sterile and hostile-to-teenage-life experience, and then there's zoning laws which make it impossible to get communal activity, like a small bar or club right between the houses, and then there's the lack of public transport ...
I have dreamed of this lifestyle for over 20 years, and just moved here a few months ago.
Septic is installed, we live in an RV. Just got this land leveled and ready to move the RV into place next to the storage containers we have. Right across the driveway will be a large garden area, but right now we only have a compost pile so far.
A neighbor said they will help us with chickens, so we only need some fence and feed. Things move slowly, but we are excited to jump into this lifestyle. Fresh air and beautiful views.
What do you do for water?
Currently getting water from a purification machine at the store, it’s expensive but we use very little right now. (42 cents per gallon)
We just got a 2,500 gallon tank, after I finish the plumbing I plan to order water delivery, should be about $200 to fill the tank. (Less than 1 cent per gallon)
After that I’m making a roof and collecting rain water. (Free water)
If you don't mind me asking. Where are you located that you are able to do this?
Arizona has several counties that are not as strict and allow a lot of alternative living options.
how far away does the water delivery come from?
I think it’s a local company, Met them at a local event for the alternative buildings and living off grid. We also met a lot of YouTubers there, it was super chill.
When I call them, I want to ask if it’s from a well, is it drinkable, etc. I do have filters and the UV light for water that I will add eventually.
What do u do for a living
I run a few online businesses (streaming, YouTube, eBay), but had to put all that on hold as we were moving and getting settled here. Just about out of our savings, but we are very close to starting the business back up. I think maybe 1-2 weeks.
There is always set backs working here off grid, example is yesterday I was cleaning land to move the RV and the track came off the excavator. It looks like a simple fix on YouTube but it’s raining now lol
One thing is missing. Family... A loving partner, maybe some years pass and some children...
Is Anon dreaming of dacha? Because it sounds same.
Nah I'll take the city thanks. I would like a functional bus service and be able to walk places.
Also bathroom, kitchen and livingroom possibly together, bedroom, and maybe. Maybe! An office.
Man that was a good year before the rent increase and subsequent eviction.
The problem with living on the edge of the countryside is that eventually somebody else builds on the countryside part and you're just living in another crappy suburb.
Exactly, this mindset just creates more suburbs, roads, cars, unwalkable districts, etc.
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I live in this. I pay 500€ rent, in one of Europe's most densely populated areas. I commute to work by bicycle, and I can take walks into the forest with my cats till we get too close to the Alpaka Farm, cause they're afraid of the alpakas.
Unfortunately, we're getting thrown out this year, and looking at 3x the rent for something worse which is further away.
Where in Europe's densest areas can you rent anything for 500€?
Nowhere if the stars don't align.
I live in Heidelberg, Germany.
This house is worth 3-4x more.
But my landlady is a little special. She lives in a hippie commune in another country, is fighting with depression and simply didn't want to deal with the house at all.
So that was the deal, we could live there for cheap, I fix stuff myself and never bother her with anything.
I had the same sort of life in the south too. Rent hikes has really fucked that lifestyle over. I blame the swiss for turning the whole german housing market into their buy-to-let playaground
Fun fact: My landlady lives in Switzerland, too.
But I've found a new place with the same price per square meter now.
Just a couple km further out, on a hill overlooking the Rhine.
You're going to be doing that every 6 years or so as others do the same, and as more landlords clock onto where future tenants are going.
The south is becoming very business friendly and that new rail line is only going to increase more swiss investment.
If you can, start looking to buy a small apartment somewhere. France seems quite stable at the moment, but that's where the German's are looking to buy
The plan is to buy the apartment I now rent, when I've been there for a year and know that the neighbors are OK.
I know the owners, and they're not going to sell to an investor.
I'm not going to leave the country.
That's good. I miss the Schwarzwald a lot. I used to bike 40km a day through mountains and forest and vineyards, through rain and snow and sun.
It was beautiful and my heart aches just thinking about it
I love her
Unfortunately you cant, that's why they are getting thrown out and looking at paying 1500€ soon
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