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cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/372863

cross-posted from: https://metawire.eu/post/61363

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

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[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just a reminder that politico is owned by the Axel Springer group which is a real force of bad for Germany and Europe. Their media campaigns often try to push the public opinion in a right wing conservative direction.

Their biggest shareholder (35%) is KKR (an American global private-equity and investment company) that use the might of the media group to sway the public opinion against climate friendly actions/policies.

[–] kishkebab@lemmings.world 6 points 5 days ago

Thanks for that, I will be making sure to avoid them.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 44 points 6 days ago (10 children)

They're all going to bluesky because for some reason as soon as social media gets involved, the wonderful human ability to pattern match just gets switched off.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

For most people it's unfortunately just "is it like Twitter" - both in terms of accessibility and algorithmic content suggestion.

[–] DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I think a sad part of this is due to people wanting that vapid dopamagic response the algorithm provides.

Is it bad for us? Yes.

But addicts are going to addict 🫤

I know lots of people who made a fediverse account easy enough, but just end up back on the algorithm platforms as there's no effort required for discovery.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 days ago

For the longest time there just wasn't enough activity so you'd get bored and stop checking back. There's enough people now that this isn't an issue anymore.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

I think it's more going to be more like twitter than they're bargaining for.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Except for the fact that most people dont like jumping through multiple hoops to register an account / need to do research beforehand to do it.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago (8 children)

If you Google "sign up for mastodon" the first result you get is a sign-up page for mastodon.social which is the default instance. The sign up page is straight forward. I get we're all coddled by iPads or whatever but this argument evades me.

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Fedi is doing fine whether or not Nazi platforms crumble.

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Biggest problem with twitter/X is so many companies mess you around until you call them out on it, then things tend to get resolved how they should have been.

I truthfully have always seen that as Twitter/X's only use

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (5 children)

A lot of our biggest communities still have like two mods taking care of everything and are prone to cherry picking. It‘s the same old forum structures where the internet bubble effect is just as strong if not stronger than on larger, already problematic platforms. Some of the things I‘ve seen and experienced lately bring back memories from those internet forum days. Good ones but also the worst ones. And I have to admit it makes me doubt the Fediverse is actually scalable. There‘s just a lack of accountability in the end.

Which is not to say a federalized platform isn‘t an alternative to giant corporations. Those have their own problems and fair share of fuck ups. But I think I‘m already starting to see the limits of the Fediverse. At least in it‘s current stage.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 16 points 6 days ago

The fediverse is much more than just lemmy. That being said i also disagree for lemmy. Drama between mods and communities was a regular thing on reddit. Still reddit managed to grow quite big before the bots took over. And companies are in no way more accountable to the users. Look at what happened with twitter under Musk. The only realistic choice you have as a normal user is to leave. And in the fediverse leaving a shitty instance still allows you to connect with all the other content from a different instance.

[–] eta@feddit.org 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The fediverse is about options. If you don't like how someone else runs their platform or community you can create your own. It's awesome because you don't get locked into one platform. And in the future I think we will see more big companies and organisations running their own stuff. But I agree that at the moment it is not what "normal people" are looking for and it will take quite some time until it develops. But to be fair the same was the case for reddit.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I guess there is a hope that if more people join the Fediverse existing instances and communities won‘t just become more bloated but people create their own alternatives. However I have to say that I have no interest in running one myself. I‘m mostly here to discuss things that pique my interest. Running a community just isn‘t what I‘m here for and I‘m afraid too many people are just like me in that regard and we‘ll create an environment that‘s all too similar to Reddit.

I also don‘t think it‘s good for the platform when people leave a community with a grudge to create a competition „with blackjack and hookers“ style. I want people to come and just create communities because they want to. That‘s where I see a future for the Fediverse.

But I also wouldn‘t want to subscribe to 5 communities about the exact same topic because that would just spam my feed with the same threads probably. However I would actually like to hop between them easily so I don‘t stick around the same few people or have to abandon one for another. A lot would have to change about the way we interact with the platform (UI) and how it‘s connected for this to work though. I‘m thinking about subscribing to topics and it shows you a good mix of communities where overlapping threads are kind of stacked or something and you could swipe cards to see comments from different communities about it or something. This is a tough one to figure out. Might not even be possible at all.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I‘m thinking about subscribing to topics and it shows you a good mix of communities where overlapping threads are kind of stacked or something and you could swipe cards to see comments from different communities about it or something.

This sounds like PieFed

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 6 days ago

As an American I think I have a good way for the fediverse to gain momentum as people flee fascist US tech companies.

achem….

“Europe! Canada! Fucking HELP! We broke everything again!”

Seriously though, while government-run and “official” instances may not be a fit for many of us here, it could make huge strides with mainstream users. Maybe getting a large percentage of people invite onboard in a small country or two could be the seed that gets it to spread.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Europeans don't like Nazis.

Americans, well...

[–] tfm@europe.pub 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Europeans don't like Nazis.

I wish this was true.

Greetings from Austria, where a far right party is the strongest, although not ruling (yet)

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago

AfD Is Now Germany’s Most Popular Party For The First Time Ever.

I wish the 'Europeans don’t like Nazis.', would be true, but we maybe just lagging behind.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

The Americans inspired them after all.

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