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[–] suicidaleggroll@lemm.ee 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Near the peak of the NFT craze I was gifted (as part of an initial mint) an NFT, which I turned around and immediately sold for $3k. Last I looked it was worth about $200. That's the extent of my experience with NFTs.

[–] ralakus@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Still surprised it's worth $200. I thought it'd be worth a few cents or maybe a few dollars at most

[–] tallpaul@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's worth what someone will actually pay for it. I suspect that $200 is the price at which it is listed...

I see what's going on here! You're confusing market value labor value and use value. Typical noob mistake. Clearly ypu dont understand the real value of an nft!

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

When they were first blowing up, I thought sure, I'll turn a couple old unreleased tracks of mine into NFTs. I signed up to some site I forget the name of, uploaded the tracks, and then then found out I had to pay something like $500 a track to turn them into NFTs. It was a pretty duh moment for me. Of course the content doesn't mean shit, it's just the money. I never paid them a dime and deleted my stuff.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When I first heard of NFTs I thought the media was encoded within the blockchain - in that case sure, I wouldn't necessarily buy one but I understand how that'd be interesting.

Ten minutes later when I was told they are just proof of purchase that points to a URL hosting your monkey image somewhere, I knew they were a total scam

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Okay but how are nft's different from the deed to a house? Checkmate, filthy commie.

Now that i have defeated you in single combat, you must tell me the seed phrase for your largest bitcoin wallet.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

You know, I feel bad for the people who were conned by the Super Bowl commercials. Celebs added legitimacy to the con. Everyone else who actually got into it because of whatever other reason, I don't give a fuck about. And SBF? Fuck that guy. I'm glad he's in prison. (I know he was selling a crypto-currency, not NFTs. Don't correct me.)

Oh, and the late night guy and the celeb blond lady who had an awkward conversation about it (was it the hotel sex tape lady?) can also fuck right off. Someone paid them to shill and they went for it. Assholes.

But, all that being said, I'll sell you a jpeg for $1000. Or two for $1999.

Edit: Paris Hilton, don't @ me. Edit: missing "the"

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I feel bad for people who are duped by the scam artists. But on the other hand, scam is such an integral part of the US life, recognising it is an essential skill by now. So if you have enough money to be scammed, but didn't learn how not to get scammed, it's at least a little bit on you at this point.
That being said, nobody is safe, unfortunately, you can be as smart and as informed as possible, they still can invent a scam that will work on you specifically.

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[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (5 children)

How do you know a crypto scheme is a scam?
You already know, the answer is "yes". It's always "yes".
The only question is, can you hold the tiger's tail just long enough to make a mint and still let go in time that you aren't the last one holding it.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

can you hold the tiger’s tail just long enough

The answer to this is also usually "no" because the people who set up the scamcoin usually don't like to leave things to chance and have a plan for when to time their rug-pull.

Trying to get in on these grifts is like spotting a bank-robbery in-progress and trying to join the crew and get paid. Sure it can happen, but you're not exactly playing with the best odds of success.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s the big question: do you recognize the scam in time to take advantage of it, and have the awareness to get out in time when there are still suckers?

I know a few people who made money on crypto in the early stages this way: recognize the scam but take advantage.

It was probably possible to take similar advantage of the Trump bribe laundering crypto scam, even without the benefit of the insider trading and market manipulation

I very briefly considered it but don’t trust my awareness to get out in time, plus participating in the scam would eat me up.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I very briefly considered it but don’t trust my awareness to get out in time, plus participating in the scam would eat me up.

Ya, one of the best pieces of advice I got was, "never gamble money you can't afford to lose". This is what keeps me out of trying to chase that tiger. Sure, it could be possible to make some money by jumping on one of these scams early and trying to ride sell the bump. But, it's also likely that be the sucker losing out in the end. I'd rather not waste my money that way.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I get the impression that most of the people who are swindled by crypto nowadays are aware of the scam and jump into it thinking they're going to make money by finding a greater fool to dump their participation the scheme on for a profit.

Such people are really trying to be scammers in the scam.

That explains them invariably rushing to defend whatever scam token they're holding whenever it gets criticized in social media: if outsider are generally made to suspect the true nature of the scam and hence become unwilling to jump in, these wannabe scammers aren't going to find a greater fool to take those tokens out of their hands and give them a nice profit.

Of course as @ameancow@lemmy.world pointed out, these scams are done from the very start for maximum profitability of those starting the scam, not for the profit of the first ones to buy into it, so often those wannabe scammers end up being the greater fools of that scam themselves.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You are absolutely right, just look at the popular investment subreddits, they don't talk about long-term goals and successful investment strategies for retirement, etc. They talk about what the latest fast-buck is going to be, what the newest short or pump-and-dump is doing, they report on when a rug gets pulled or a bubble bursts so that their buddies can stop working in inflating it.

It's an entire industry of scams and cons, from crypto to the stock-market broadly, it's all about short-term rewards at any cost.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I used to work in Tech back in the late 90s, during the first bubble and up to the Tech Crash. I also worked in both Investment Finance and Tech Startups much more recently.

I can't even begin to describe just how angry, disgusted and dissapointed this unholly intersection between Tech and Hyperspeculative-Finance of the XXI century makes me.

The whole spirit in pretty much the entire domain of Tech back in the 90s was completely different from this neverending bottomless swamp of crap we have in the supposedly innovative parts of Tech.

Ever since the sleazy slimeballs who saw from the first Tech bubble that there were massive opportunities to use Tech-mumbu-jumbo to extract money from suckers started (immediatly after the Crash) trying to pump the Net bubble back up (they even called it Web 2.0) that the old spirit of innovation for the sake of improving things of the old days in Tech was crushed and replaced by the most scammy, fraudulent, naked greed imaginable.

After my time in Finance (which, curiously, also involved a Crash in the Industry I was working in) I started describing Tech Startups as "The Even Wilder Wild West of Speculative Finance".

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah it’s such a degeneracy…..

When I worked in investments, it was all about finding the best statistical model to balance returns against risk. It was fascinating how complex the models could be, and even included currency hedging to reduce the risk of exchange rates. And most importantly to also minimize trades to control costs and tax impact. This was before lightning trading: plenty of the funds were monthly trading. Those were the good old days when a better algorithm could shave points enough to stand out but everyone was on similar footing

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[–] shani66@ani.social 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Unfortunately for them that ship has sailed. It's not hard to get in on a scam like this of you do it early enough, i probably would have done it if i had enough money when this started (don't judge, much, money is important when you don't have it) and i probably would have gotten out like a bandit. Now though, it's mostly targeting them.

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[–] Dupree878@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Pretty much all crypto bro stuff, honestly

[–] TinyLittlePuni@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Every time someone mentions NFT's, I think of this gem and its sequel

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There use to always be a crowd of TSLA stock owners (fewer now) defending Tesla in posts criticising Musk and Tesla, and similarly lots of people who are clearly cryptocurrency owners coming out of the woodworks to defend cryptocurrencies in posts critical of them.

Under this post we seem to be getting a lot of NFT owners doing the same: "selling their book" as they say in Finance.

People will say any old bollocks and dissemble like pros to keep up interest in the "investment" assets they own until they find a greater fool to dump them on.

Makes me think of the difference in the discourse around Bitcoin back in the early days vs latter stages: NFTs were created from the very go as way of separating fools from their money so the talk around them has always been swindlers' talk - or if you want to describe it in a positive light, "the grifters grift" - but Bitcoin did not start as a vehicle for money making, and I remember back in the beginnings of Bitcoin how the talk was very different - mainly naive idealism - and how it changed over time as greedy types became a greater and greater part of those who had bought Bitcoin.

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[–] fiddledeedee@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

i smoked a joint with an one of those ape drawings on the jar last night, that was a Nice Fuckin Toke

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