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I really liked lemm.ee because it didn't defederate from the radical socialist and communist spectrum of political speech.
But the other issue with a bigger instance like lemm.ee going down is that as long as communities can't be moved (including users and content) to other instances, the lemmy project will fail. Because then only centralization in a few big instances is viable, and those big instances are going to become valuable and sold to plutocrats.
Community migration is possible on Piefed https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45876492?scrollToComments=true
To be fair, lemm.ee didn't really act as host to any major communities to begin with. So communities aren't really the loss here, and it could be that having at least a few big active communities on an instance is a key part of maintaining its long term viability.
Also, all the text posts and comments from lemm.ee will still remain on other instances. I'm sure the instance could also back up content, if the specific admin so desired to re-host.
Yeah the biggest communities seem to be movies and television, and my guess is that they'll be gobbled up by lemmy.world. But every community migration like currently looses subscriber members, and split communities mean a lack of interaction. Social network require a critical mass, and also benefit from centralization. While federation works great for users there isn't a real solution for communities yet. There is a lot of randomness involved, like who gets to be the first to make a community might be a bad mod in the long term. For example the reddit r/climate mod is a climate skeptic. Not sure if there is any better solution.
I'm just wondering how the best design for this problem would look like. Maybe the mod of a community could have some kind of key that he can transfer to another instance and automatically transfer all the user subscriptions and link the post history with them.
For me, the bigger problem with how Lemmy is federated is the way comments and posts have unique IDs for every instance. You can't easily find a comment or post from one instance on any other instance. With users, you just have /user/username@instance, what we need is /post/###@instance or /comment/###@instance. Instead, we just have /post/### and the ### is different everywhere (I think it's just sequential for every post/comment the instance federates).
Maybe there's some reason they did it this way, but it feels like the better solution is to have the original host instance decide the number, then every other instance just use their number and their @instance.
Pretty sure that was on the bug list 2 years ago.
That's a disturbingly good point.
Community migration is available on Piefed: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45876492?scrollToComments=true
So what about all the valuble content in the Communities posted?
Posts that propagated to other communities will stay on servers.
Images will break though.
I'm an .ee refugee. I just hope this stuff doesn't become the norm where instances get shut down
Shit I'm out of the loop, is my account being deleted or something?
End of june, lemm.ee is shutting down.
don't worry though, most communities are available on other instances.
Just make a new account on lemmy.zip, export your settings/subscriptions from lemm.ee and import them on .zip.
Yes. End of june.
Out of loop? We had posts and posts about lemm.ee going down, how did you missed it?
Anyway, end of June lemm.ee is going down, which means it won't be accessible!
If you want to access lemmy after that, you have to find a new instance. Have a look here to search for a new instance.
Don't forget to export your profile settings from settings > Import/Export Settings > export.
Been busy with moving and stuff. This is the first I saw anything. Thanks for the info.
Lemm.ee was my home instance. I will miss it dearly. I wasn't as active as I probably could have been, but I'm still sad.
Wherever you guys migrate, please stop concentrating the userbase around lemmy.world, that's exactly what we're trying to avoid with Lemmy to begin with. The best thing you can do is go to https://join-lemmy.org/ and choose a server that's not in the top 10 or so. This will also help avoid things like the admins/mods burning out
Thank you, not just for showing respect and appreciation to the people behind Lemm.ee but because these posts are a magnet for the kind of trolls everyone should block before migrating elsewhere. 👌
I'll be honest i don't get what people differentiate so much about instances. most of the time i don't even notice what instance people I'm talking to are from, what instance the community in browsing is from, what instance the meme I'm viewing is from... is it about the software you're using that you're so aware of these things?
To me, it's mostly how an instance is ran. How it makes its decisions: defederating or not, and with whom, how they handle complaints, how they handle bans, etc. makes a difference in both the communities it hosts and its members.
There's also the matter of user culture. Some instances, like Beehaw, Lemmygrad, and Hexbear are known for a certain user culture. Some users might steer clear away from certain instances because of that perceived user culture.
And then there's the issue of defederation stance. It might not be readily apparent, or affect your user experience in a big way, but for some users, it's a factor. This is also where lemm.ee made its mark. It basically used defederation as a last resort, and some users were drawn to that.
That's why I was here. I've already made a few more accounts just to have backups in case this happens again, but I really really enjoyed how I could see most of the Fediverse, and could block with my own settings if I didn't like the way another instance was ran. I will miss it. :'-]
Community cultures, mostly, as trimmed and pruned by admins. Most instances I don't notice massive differences in, with a few exceptions.
Thank you to all the admins and donators who kept lemm.ee going.
I'm sorry but the best is dbzero. Lemm.ee was a damn good instance too though
I think it adds to our mystique that not even our regulars can spell it correctly :D
I will now try to misspell it in a new way every time 🫡
The lemm.ee admin is a shit hot developer though, his instance was generally more robust than all the others, and he helped other instances when they had various problems. It's a shame he wasn't the lead lemmy developer, although I'm sure he doesn't have the time for such a big undertaking.
Its where I moved to :)
I saw that, which is why I allowed myself to gas it up here.
Again, just to be clear, no disrespect meant to lemm.ee refugees or the former admin, I just wanted to rep my instance to any potential former lemm.ee users because I like it here !
It was great while it lasted, and I thank those that ran it. A breath of fresh air after initially being on an instance that decided to nanny its users by defederating from instances for no good reasons.
I have a backup account on sdf.org, so I'm now using that as my main instance. Thanks to those who run it.
Yeah, SDF is a good choice (and a very interesting org in its own right)
Oh …..oh God, why!!! Why!? It’s too soon!!! 😭😩
too soon!
Definitely
NOoooooooo :(
lemm.ee has been hands down my favourite instance, it's genuinely depressing that it's going.
what do i do now i only use jerboa how do i change instances
Go to https://lemm.ee/settings in a web browser (I'm not sure its in jerboa), and export your settings.
Make an account at lemmy.zip or lemmy.cafe, go to settings there, and import the settings file.
then, log out of jerboa, and log in with your new account.
Can you explain why Lemmy.zip or Lemmy.cafe specifcaly?
lemmy.zip is the most similar, it has a great admin and a similar federation policy.
Lemmy.cafe was just the second instance to come into my head.
Fellow lemm.ee refugee!
Thank you to the lemm.ee admins and mods for everything. I will miss the defederation policy the most!
You're not crying, I'm crying!