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As long as it's implicit right and is a reasonable price I 100% will be getting it. I am willing to pay someone else to securly hold my (e2ee) data.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 146 points 1 week ago

As long as they leave the local backup option that sounds like a good idea to me.

[–] simple@piefed.social 80 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Makes sense., something as huge and expensive as Signal can't run entirely on donations.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sure it can, just look at Wikipedia. But it's probably a good idea to have some alternate forms of revenue generation.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Wikipedia has way more donors, since it's basically the only one of its kind. There is no Big Tech alternative to Wikipedia, so everyone just uses it by default. There are lots of other messengers though, so Signal isn't the default choice.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 58 points 1 week ago

Good to see they have some reasonable revenue streams lined up.

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 42 points 1 week ago

At least this time they do it out in the open, not like with the MobileCoin integration.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's a pretty good idea for monetization.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Completely fine with that, I agree

[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

As long as they dont shove it down our throats, and then expand and expand and expand the features that are in their paid tier, and make you feel lesser for choosing their local only unpaid mode, and dont make the unpaid mode inconvenient with dark patterns.

Its happened too much, I've asked my friends to hop through so many different platforms over the years and decades

It always starts with something thats reasonable, and every time thus far, it expands into something I hate.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago

Finally a good approach at raising money (other than donations)

I have no issue with this, I personally wouldn't use it but I get that they need to make money (which is why i have a recurrent donation every month).

If this helps them to do that, then so be it

[–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If this feature rolls out but you can't pay for it. You can always use Molly (fork of signal). If you can support the project than do it. But if you can't than don't force your self

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[–] qweertz@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Glad to see they are establishing useful streams of revenue

I, however, will continue using Molly in combination with Syncthing

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting, how do you use syncthing with molly?

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well, if you didn't know, Molly is a soft fork of the Signal Android client.

But, I think both support making local backups of your chats.
I do so daily and keep two copies. These get synced in real time to my little NAS and/or my PC/Laptop

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[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Excellent news honestly. Trying to get people to switch to something encrypted and the one thing I've thought of is that I want to know it can continue indefinitely. Everything else in life costs money- we just never think of it computer wise because we pay with our data and privacy.

This can join threema with a solid revenue stream. I back mine up locally but would pay for this anyhow.

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't mind paying a fair price, for a service, so they should go for it. I use both Signal and Telegram, and I would pay for Telegram too, if the price was more fair...

[–] rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Don't use Telegram, let alone pay for it. So many red flags with Telegram.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

All of my signal conversations have auto expiry

Do people really use their conversation logs for things? Are you often searching your conversational logs?

Outside of corporate compliance issues I can't imagine the workflow for most people

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Yes, and yes.

"I said this was happening 3 weeks ago. Here's the literal text of me sending it to you and you saying 'Okay thanks' in reply."

Shuts down an argument real quick.

[–] mightysashiman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

History search is great when you have a lot of friends and poor memory. Perhaps not your use case ?

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I never set auto expiry and often search messages. Sometimes it's because I want to find a specific fact or datum from two years ago; other times it's just for a reminder of a memory. On occasion, if the history wasn't there, people might remember something important differently.

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Yes and yes

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Me and my wife and wife sends information, pictures , whatever. I often search my messages for stuff

[–] jimmy@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Though the same I like my conversations disappear when I need to reinstall Signal.

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[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Signal backups are an issue. They keep growing. I need to look into a solution sooner or later that isn't just buying a phone with more space. I'd like to find ways to reduce the size and keep managing the backups myself, but that's gonna take time. If they offer a secure, private, and affordable service, I'd prolly just redirect my donations to that.

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[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago

Would pay for

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

I commented this in the other thread, sharing it here as well

I’ve been waiting for this feature for a while actually 😅

When I last saw people talking about it, there were rumors that there would be a reasonable free backup (ex. up to 1 Gb) with relatively cheap paid options above that. I scrolled through the GitHub link and couldn’t confirm or deny if this is still/actually the case.

Backups are the #1 pain point for friends that tried to switch to Signal, especially for those on iOS. I have a local backup + sync setup for my own phone, but it’s a lot to expect for the average casual user to set up.

Whatsapp has backups to Google Drive, which is better than nothing but not ideal. It’s time Signal had a reliable backup method for casual users

[–] Outwit1294@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

Good initiative. They need money to work

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cloud backups, for security!

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If anyone is actually going to get that right in a mainstream product, it will probably be Signal.

[–] jimmy@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

Year according to a wiki page on the unofficial Signal wiki the backup will not be directly linked to the user "It appears that backups will not be directly linkable to a user. Authentication for operations against a given backup will use zero-knowledge proofs.".

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like cloud backup on their server or a subscription just to export the files to store offline?

[–] jimmy@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think it's cloud backups.

In the GitHub commit it's called Renew your Signal Backups subscription.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

If it's 1 euro a month, I'll do it

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Imagine having to pay with it with MobileCoin's shitcoin ^^

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