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The administration is preparing to send thousands of foreigners to the infamous detention facility, including people from Britain, France and Italy, with no plans to notify their home governments, officials said.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The next step is to allow this for certain US citizens that they classify with some bullshit term/criteria. Let's end it this weekend. The longer we wait, the more entrenched he'll become. Make the armed forces decide who they support now, not later.

Show up to protests and try to leave water/snacks for police, national guard, and first responders, then honestly the best thing to do would be to sit down silently, wave the American flag, and not leave until he's gone. No screaming, no chants. Provide the world with nothing but images of peaceful, patriotic protestors. Silent, peaceful, generous, but unyielding.

Set up supply lines, and get comfy.

If that doesn't work, split into as many groups of 1000+ as you can to overwhelm police, overrun them, and make them understand what they're up against.

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dr. King’s policy was, if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That’s very good. He only made one fallacious assumption. In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.

Stokely Carmichael, one of SNCC's first freedom riders

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

People severely overestimate their fellow man’s intelligence level and empathy.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From Peter Coyote on Substack - I’m watching the Los Angeles reaction to ICE raids with trepidation and regret. Three years ago I taught a class at Harvard on the “theater of protest”— designed to help people understand why so many protests turn out to be Republican campaign videos working directly against the interests of the original protest.

A protest is an invitation to a better world. It’s a ceremony. No one accepts a ceremonial invitation when they’re being screamed at. More important you have to know who the real audience Of the protestis. The audience is NEVER the police, the politicians, the Board of supervisors, The Congress,etc. The audience is always the American people, who are trying to decide who they can trust; who will not embarrass them. If you win them, you win power at the box office And power to make positive change.Everything else is a waste. There are a few ways to get there.

Number 1 let women organize the event. They’re more collaborative. They’re more inclusive, and they don’t generally bring the undertones of violence men do. 2 appoint monitors, give them yellow, vests and whistles. At the first sign of violence, they blow the whistles and the real protester sit down. Let the police take out their aggression on the anarchists and the provocateurs trying to discredit the movement. Number 3 dress like you’re going to church. It’s hard to be painted as a hoodlum When you’re dressed in clean Presentable clothes. They don’t have to be fancy they just signal the respect for the occasion that you want to transmit to the audience.Number 4, make your protest silent. Demonstrate your discipline to the American people.Let signs do the talking. Number 5 go home at night. In the dark, you can’t tell the cops from the killers. Come back at Dawn fresh and rested. I have great fear that Trump’s staging with the National Guard and maybe the Marines is designed to clash with anarchists who are playing into his hands and offering him the opportunity to declare an insurrection. It’s such a waste and it’s only because we haven’t thought things through strategically. Nothing I thought of is particularly original. It was all learned by watching the early civil rights protests in the 50s and 60s. And it was the discipline and courage of African-Americans that drew such a clear line in the American sand that people were forced to take sides and that produced the civil rights act. .The American people are watching and once again if we behave in ways that can be misinterpreted, we’ll see this explained to the public in Republican campaign videos benefiting the very people who started this. Wake up. Vent at home. In public practice discipline and self control. It takes much more courage.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This should definitely be the approach for the first phase of protesting, but I fear this is also missing the part where fascists — including the oligarch owned media — will actively produce and disseminate disinformation to justify their crimes, regardless of how peaceful and disciplined protesters are. I fear fascists will continue escalating to mass murder either way.

Remember "They're eating cats and dogs" or "kitty litter in schools" or "migrant caravan"?

In the age of disinformation, facing a fascist mass murder, protesters need to be prepared for "peaceful" to turn into Tiananmen square, at which point there's no reason to congregate around the square anymore; you need to switch gears and go guerrilla warfare. Obviously this should never be done anywhere near a protest. It should never be waged against civilians/MAGA voters, cops, troops, or federal agents. It should only ever be targeted specifically at the fascist leadership, and their immediate senior accomplices. Wasting time or effort on low value targets is counterproductive.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] HuskerNation@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Yep it's time to start raiding republicans reps offices and right wing media

[–] burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They thing is, even if you’re peaceful if they ask you to leave and you’re not leaving, they’re gonna break up your protest violently. And if you leave every time they tell you leave, they’ll learn that they can just ban you entirely from protesting because what are you gonna do about it?

So you end up staying and the police will break up your protest. They will say that you were throwing bottles or stones, you can deny it but all conservative and some liberal media will report anyway that that’s how it escalated. You will be at risk of being beaten, inhaling tear gas, being shot at, arrested, you might get sentenced to a fine, community service, or even jail time. And no one will come to your defense because you asked for it by escalating the protest.

That’s why protests are escalating, because the police repeatedly attacks peaceful protesters for no good reason. For the police, you are the enemy, because they report to the government, and they act to protect the government, not you as a citizen.

Source of all this: I have been going to Palestine protest for the better part of my adulthood and have witnessed this way too many times during all kinds of administrations, especially since the genocide started.

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

If you are for some reason on holiday in America... Get out now!