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[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Well buying used book does not give jkr one penny, watching dvd does not give and algorithm engagement, amd any old offline game will not either.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

i don't consume any of it but mostly because they're bad and she's a bad writer, but being a transphobe certainly didn't help her case either

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've had the first four books in the study at my mom's house since I was a kid. My nephew and nieces will read them. We have the box set of DVDs from forever ago. Same deal. I wouldn't consider myself a die-hard fan. I still don't understand why die-hard fans could still be spending so much money on the franchise. Did they add to the books?

[–] DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

The short answer is it's not books. It's mostly licencing deals in the form of video games and merchandise... However HBO is about to put forward a new series that JKR will have executive control and an executive sized pay check for.

It's the "well it already exists and licencing deals are already paid, might as well watch it/play it/own it" that keeps the whole engine rolling on. Every time there's a little bit of advocacy to disengage from the fandom it is always spun as "too late" or focuses on the books or death of the author... But all that's really required is ambivalence.

Inevitably the new HP thing will come out and whether or not trans people mention anything people will drag up the controversy, use the reminder to brigade the spaces trans people connect online, try and goad their trans coworker for a commentary and set off yet another flurry of right wing backlash that makes elevating the franchise a patriotic duty to "stick it to the moralizing trans people to show them who is boss". All of this causes more cultural pressure on a population already underwater with being chased out of the public sphere but it will be framed as a just retaliation for a perceived slight.

It's a song and dance that will continue ad infinitum as long as it's profitable because appearantly nostalgia is worth turning a blind eye to the where the money goes.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you wanna play the game, pirate it and then play it offline.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wasn't interested in playing it, but now I'm gonna do this out of spite.

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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I would love to understand why saying "Don't support cunts" is such a non-controversial statement.

Until it comes to Harry Potter.

Especially considering how simple it is to do.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

it is interesting how JK Rowling hasn't had the same boycott pressure than Elon Musk and Tesla, I think trans rights are just not as motivating to most people, unfortunately

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago

because it's Don't support assholes,

but what if it affects me personally?

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

They're basically swifties ffs.

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[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (33 children)

I think these hard line stances do more harm than good.

My wife and I are active in not supporting any new things, but to talk about how you think it's morally wrong to even talk about the franchise is going to alienate a ton of people.

I feel fine talking about it, and the memories I had with it. Because everyone I surround myself with is completely aligned that Harry Potter was meaningful when we were kids and also JK Rowling is a complete fucking asshat.

This sort of purity testing has got to stop. If mentioning the name of Harry Potter marks someone as a transphobe who is equally as bad as politicians actively stripping them of their rights... The movement will never build a coalition.

Saying that financially supporting JK Rowling is actively harming the trans community is a reasonable argument. Saying that talking about Harry Potter, even if you note that JK Rowling sucks, makes you an outright transphobe is not reasonable to me.

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[–] Vari@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ll never. Ever. Understand being rich enough to enjoy the rest of your life and choosing to spend that wealth harming innocent people.

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion coming, but fuck it. Harry Potter was never great, besides being set in the modern day it's very generic and the movies were mid. some people will worship whatever JK Rowling breathes on

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 138 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Fuck stopping. Steal it all. Take it and enjoy it without her getting anything. Reclaim the art. Make it your own. Piss her off with fanfic and fan art based on things stolen from her.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (26 children)

You don't need to stop doing any of this.

Just pirate all of it.

That's what I did.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Go read Le Guin's Earthsea books instead, which are genuinely better written, and LeGuin was a great person who wrote a lot of socially progressive literature. Not to mention that it hasn't been turned into a fucking corporate media franchise like LOTR.

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[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

I made the same decision with Brandon Sanderson and his fuckin fanclub takes it extremely personally when I point out how problematic he is as an author.

Yes, his writing is good. Yes, his writing is remarkably inclusive with regards to sexual orientation, disability, and mental illness.

However, Brandon is a Mormon first and foremost, and actively tithes to his church. That means a significant percentage of ALL Dragonsteel profits go directly towards the suppression and disenfranchisement of LGBTQ+ programs, sex education, and effective mental health services.

He might write a good story, but his IRL politics are repugnant.

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what are some fun trans-inclusive universes? doesn't have to be fantasy

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Discworld explores gender a few times in a way that I like.

Monstrous Regiment is about a bunch of women who pretend to be men to join their military. For the most part - these aren’t trans characters, they identify as female. The funny is the characters slowly discovering that everyone else in their group is doing the same thing. One character though, explicitly identifies as male after the “reveal” and has male pronouns used for them.

Discworld as a series tends to be irreverent without punching down. Comedy is a weapon in Pratchett’s hands, but his targets are capitalism and oppressive systems.

LeGuin has a lot of interesting takes on gender. The Hainnish cycle is about a race of humans who had previously colonized a bunch of planets and did lots of experimentation on those populations - kinda Vault Tec vibes. The civilization collapses/gets better, and the POV character is usually some type of researcher/anthropologist looking at how those planets develop The Left Hand of Darkness is a sci fi classic: a planet where people stay sexless until they go into “heat” and will develop the opposite genitals of the person who they are attracted to. There’s lots of switching back and forth. It’s a big deal when the king gets pregnant, because only children the king carries can inherit the throne.

Any LeGuin is good. Earthsea is a far superior children’s series compared to Harry Potter. Nothing that really makes it explicitly trans but the process of finding your true name and accepting yourself is something that resonated very much with me. (Also props to LeGuin for being very forceful with insisting that the characters not be depicted as white. None of this pussyfooting retroactive “I never said Hermione was white!”)

Anne Leckie’s Imperial Radch trilogy is also more gender bending sci fi. Everyone is “she.” The first book was part of the Sad Puppies drama, because it won Hugo’s and absolutely pissed a bunch of a bunch of chuds.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Pratchett did indeed inspect gender quite a bit in the Discworld books.

It's never quite explicitly explained where Nobby Nobbs' peg fits, but it turns out he certainly prefers to wear women's clothing and is reluctant enough to change back into his male uniform at the end of Jingo that he has to be explicitly ordered to do so.

There's also Equal Rites, the very second story (and third book), which explores the notion of, "Just why can't a woman be a wizard, anyway?" (It turns out she can. And quite a powerful one, too.)

Gender is a pretty big deal to the dwarfs on the Disc, too. It's a recurring theme ever since Cheery Littlebottom is introduced in Feet of Clay.

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