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EDIT: I decided on Mailbox.org!

Cross-posted from "Looking for a good e-mail provider that's not Tuta/Proton" by @Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com in !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com


I'd like to use a third-party client like Thunderbird to handle my e-mails, which rules out both Tuta and Proton (I know Proton has their bridge, but I don't want to rely on it). I'm willing to compromise on my e-mails not being encrypted, as long as the e-mail provider has a reputation of caring about the customer's privacy. If I truly want to encrypt a message, I'll encrypt it myself. I've been looking at Mailbox.org, and while I've been hearing good things, people have also been complaining about their lack of support, outdated interface as well as that they don't enforce DKIM/DMARC which enables spoofing.

I would like to be able to use my own custom domain, but also to use their own domain for my e-mail aliases. EU-based only.

Any thoughts?

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[–] leoboehm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

For anyone reading this: Mailbox.org is great, alternatives I like too are posteo and disroot. I use Discord and am happy with it. Its free and optional one time fee upgrades are possible

[–] ZonenRanslite@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ZonenRanslite@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago

Good choice

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Hmm I mentioned them in my post as I've been apprehensive about them, maybe it's unfounded though..

[–] Ephemeral@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://eylenburg.github.io/cloud_comparison.htm

Turn on the filter for email about IMAP and you'll have all your options. You'll have to look up whether they allow custom domains though.

This is a better list than the ones I've seen previously. Thanks for sharing.

[–] privsecfoss 1 points 22 hours ago

Posteo.de. Been using them for years, and are coulden't be more happy.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know if Australia is to be trusted tbh

[–] InvisibleShoe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Dont. Our encryption and privacy laws are garbage

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

As am Australian, do not trust us, we keep votong for politcans who are happy to use the no prowvacy dildo of consequence and use the CSAM/ terrorist trope to attack anyone against it.

[–] MapTheft@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago
[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Disroot and Autistici are both good options that work with IMAP :D

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Infomaniak? Thundermail? The latter only has a waitlist for now, unfortunately.

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, but apparently Infomaniak has some privacy-related issues.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now that I think of it, I do remember them asking for my address and phone number in order to sign up . . .

[–] Onyx376@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Exactly. I tried to create an account years ago, but when I saw it, I never tried again and completely discarded.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately no support for using their own domain as an alias. I want to use both my custom domain and their own.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 day ago

Could you get the extra functionality you're after from addy.io?

[–] feeny@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago
[–] mike_wooskey@lemmy.thewooskeys.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it not possible to use thunderbird (or any email client) wirh tutu (or any email provider)? I thought you could plug in your email provider's smtp and imap/pop information and your account credentials into any app.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The way Tuta and Proton have set up E2EE is not compatible with Thunderbird.

Proton offers a "bridge" service that does local decryption for email clients like TB but it's an extra step and has to be running 24/7.

Ah. Thanks for the explanation .

[–] pea@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use posteo. The interface is nothing to write home about, but since I use thunderbird, this is not a dealbreaker (for me).

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately no support for custom domains.

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buy your own domain name, rent a mail-hotel, and you have the full control. Set it up with IMAP, and enjoy it in Thunderbird.

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As I wrote in my post, I already have a custom domain but I want to use both my domain and theirs.

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

If you have your own, why do you want to use theirs?