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Over the past few decades, the number of Americans who identify as religiously unaffiliated—often referred to as “nones”—has grown rapidly. In the 1970s, only about 5% of Americans fell into this category. Today, that number exceeds 25%. Scholars have debated whether this change simply reflects a general decline in belief, or whether it signals something more complex. The research team wanted to explore the deeper forces at play: Why are people leaving institutional religion? What are they replacing it with? And how are their personal values shaping that process?

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[–] Ushmel@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

We can just go to therapy instead of confessional.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 38 minutes ago

It's been a slow trend over the last decades but it's encouraging to hear about.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

In the 1970s, only about 5% of Americans fell into this category. Today, that number exceeds 25%.

That's ... a surprisingly slow transition. I can understand that an official turn away from christianity only started in the 1970s, fueled by a cultural revolution.

But the fact that only 25% of people have officially said no to religion as of today is staggering me. I would have thought it would be closer to 80%, maybe.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 37 minutes ago

Never underestimate the power of indoctrination to an incurious victim.

[–] gerowen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Because it's all horseshit?

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I was going to say bullshit but either will do.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 2 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

When it comes to bullshit, you have to stand in awe of religion.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

I miss carlin. I would love to hear his take on the current bullshit.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 36 minutes ago

I'll do ya one better and go with tyrannosaurus shit.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago
[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Everyone, myself included always come back to the same reason - there is no proof.

If I was given actual proof of a god or pantheon or any other ridiculous nonsense I’d absolutely change my mind but actual proof magic exists can’t exist because magic isn’t real

I fully accept that I don’t and can’t truly understand the universe but where the fuck does that somehow morph into “god did it” it’s ok not to know everything I don’t need made up bullshit to fill the gaps so I can feel better about not having every answer. Live with not knowing, that’s what being human is meant to be, acceptance

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 41 minutes ago

god definitely exists, as it's just a philosophical concept to say the "cause of all causes". by definition, such a thing exists, i would say.

the issue is more with organized religion. there's a lot of rules and bureaucracy in it, and most of that is outdated.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

My guess is that the extreme hatred flowing out of outspoken "Christians" in the US is a huge turn-off, as it should be.

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They have tech now. And conspiracy theories. Lots of stuff to cult about. They can build their own religion if they want.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the religion!

[–] TurnOnTheSunflower@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

samus12345, you lead and I will follow. All hail samus12345.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

the atomisation of society!

it would throw society into chaos! (/s)

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

For their study, Schnabel and his colleagues used data from the National Study of Youth and Religion. This included four waves of longitudinal survey data and 183 in-depth interviews conducted from 2003 to 2013. The sample included over 1,300 individuals, each tracked from adolescence into young adulthood. [...] The number of respondents attending religious services dropped dramatically between 2003 and 2013.

The study used data that's 12 years old! Millennials are not young adults anymore. At this point it's well known that Americans, especially the younger cohorts, are moving away from religion, so why even bother reanalyzing ancient data?

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Gen Z is more religious and conservative, than millennials, a lot more

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

Generally less able to identify scams so, it tracks.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

It is very useful to reanalyze old data. Recently, a study came out that concluded that we have misunderstood the role of nutrition and calories in fitness, and it examined studies over a period of decades to come to the conclusions. You don't always need new data to make new conclusions.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Here's my theory why:

  • People nowadays have higher average education and can much more easilly spot the logical inconsistences in Religion.
  • People are so overexposed and overwhelmed by swindles in the modern era that they are more naturally spotting the swindle nature of ancient swindles such as Religion.
[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Because I don't need God to be a good person, or know what good morals are.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

Not to mention you'll do a better job at it if you think for yourself on the subject rather than delegating it to a spiritual leader with potentially dubious agendas

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've been reading that Gen-Z is going to organized religion more now.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

This is caused by social media. People getting sucked into the right-wing VLOG-o-sphere.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 3 points 9 hours ago

I'm not technically leaving religion, I was raised atheist and just never got the hang of believing in supernatural things.

I believe some CRAZY stuff but it's not supernatural

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

should be happening with gen z and alpha too, but gen z has more right wingers than previous generations, due to significant propaganda.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 35 minutes ago

it's not all propaganda. there's significant instability. gen Z can't find a job. the old ways don't work for them anymore. "right-wing" just means "without a plan to trust in", IMO.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

I always wonder what made millennials so left compared to every generation before and after.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

Propaganda cultivated and disseminated by Boomers.

Decades later, the root rot is still Boomers.

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Good for them.

These ancient lies designed for crowd control have been horrible these past thousand years.

Not that modern political groups or sects etc are much better...

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 32 minutes ago

i just want to point out that medieval christianity was actually fine. it helped the people live good lives.

the issues began around 1500, when political pressures caused europeans to go to america, and later in 1800 with the industrial revolution.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago

Lmao because it's horse shit that's why

Source: me, a 37-yo exmormon who was all-in, true believer, until his mid 20s.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 17 points 19 hours ago

because its bullshit?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 159 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Well, my whole life, I've lived in a society where organized Christianity has overwhelmingly been a force for evil, rather than a force for good. Fuck, I straight-up believe that most Evangelical Christians are devil worshipers. If your religion leads you to hate, you aren't worshiping God, you're worshiping the Devil.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Christianity is, by definition, a cult of human sacrifice.

Kinda puts the entire faith into perspective.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 31 minutes ago

human sacrifice

like a candle that burns and therefore melts.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

there is literally nothing that religion can provide that can't be gotten without religion

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 25 points 23 hours ago

Part of this is just that the socially conservative pressure to fit in has eased. Time was you had to be "religious" to fit in to communities and it was seen as part of American identity.

I find it hard to believe 75% of Americans are religious. In the UK 37% identify as non religious. 45% identify as Christian yet churches have emptied our and most young people only end up in one for marriages or funerals. People say they're Christian but I have no doubt a large chunk of those people are just ticking a box on a census form as it's part of their identity.

[–] DantesFreezer@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

I feel like the unloved sect is really the unitarian universalists. They're basically a doctrine free "church" of social justice. Like, I love going sometimes and just getting more advice on how to be an excellent human to others. And then we have snacks.

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