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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Well, technically, the Germans could have voted in a majority party on the left in the early 1930s and when that did fail they still could have just not voted for literal nazis.

So, Yeah. That was an option.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 14 points 9 hours ago

Little known fact that the Nazis were at last turned back at Stalingrad by the wittiest picket sign made in the Soviet Union. The sign, which used a mock spelling of Hitler's name, simply read "A doof, Hitler". Many historians believe that the German military never fully recovered from this humiliation.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This reminds me of a discussion I was having with Hexbear members on Lemmy recently.

I was suggesting that perhaps it makes sense for the UK to have nukes, for self-defence against other nuclear countries like Russia, China, and potentially even the US, given their unpredictable behaviour. People from Hexbear got angry at this suggestion. One of them suggested that it's immoral to have nukes because nukes are "threatening civilians".

Maybe the OP image of this thread is right though: megalomaniacs are not deterred by words, but they are deterred by weapons (such as nukes). Ukraine was invaded because they didn't have enough deterrents. Iran is currently being bombed because I suppose they also didn't have enough deterrents.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine actually gave their nukes on the promise of future safety. We all saw how that worked out.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. If Ukraine had their own nukes by the time of 2014, or if they had been part of NATO, then maybe Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

"More nukes" is never a good solution to any problem

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Fighting back is often the only choice you're left with when Nazis gain power, but I do wish people would keep in mind there's a difference between strategizing and being smart about how and when you fight back vs encouraging individuals to run full speed at the entire U.S. military with a bullseye on their forehead.

Also, if you're bringing fascists and rule of law into this, hopefully you're not wilfully ignoring how they gain power in the first place, or the fact that the Nazis literally used a legal expert that provided them with the legal shield they needed to carry out a genocide without ever breaking the law.

Carl Schmitt

Or that one of Trump's biggest defenders against the "crooked courts" that keep getting in his way, and leaving him with no choice but to act like a dictator, is a Harvard Constitutional Law professor who also just happens to be a Carl Schmitt fanboy.

Adrian Vermeule-OUR SCHMITTIAN ADMINISTRATIVE LAW

Common-Good Constitutionalism Is an Idea as Dangerous as They Come

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

We will see in four years (or less depending if anything horrifically dramatic happens). But when violence has to happen, get ready to exercise your second amendment rights.

[–] KingCake_Baby@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Why wait? Fascism is here, now! Punch a Nazi today!!

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How is people being disappeared to concentration camp not already horrifically dramatic?

How is elected officials being arrested for asking for a warrant, or asking questions not already horrifically dramatic?

How is sending our own military and arresting civilians in L.A. not already horrifically dramatic?

Where the fuck is your line?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, there is plausible deniability that allow the US government to do what they're doing. In spite of some rulings which tell Trump administration that they are wrong, there are still some actions where they have legal backing, moral or not.

Legal =/= moral.

That's just how the world works I'm afraid.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I guess my initial reply was too many words to be understood fully. So I'll be more succinct.

**Something horrifically dramatic has already happened, it's already time for us to use our 2A rights for communal self defense. **

Otherwise I agree with what you just said, but I felt like you missed my point, so I wanted to say it in no uncertain terms.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I understand what you mean. What I am saying is that people are overlooking because any perceived red lines haven't been crossed yet.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes war mobilized state of Germany with the support of majority of Germans behind it famously known to be stopped by violent protests.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Exactly, it was the peaceful protests that did it. 🙄

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

And if you see someone being taken away by fascists, make sure you and everyone else watching dont do anything except film it to post on social media. Maybe if you're feeling adventurous you can tell the brown shirts what theyre doing is bad, just make sure you dont do anything to actually stop them.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

worked out for this guy:

although to be fair he did get shot to death right before.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

There are more guns than people in the US. Guns don't stop fascism, if they did we would not be here now. Furthermore, the majority of 2nd amendment gunholes are ready to support ICE not fight them.

This meme is stupid on so many levels.

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

"One side has a lot of guns and supports fascism, therefore the other side should disarm, I am very smart."

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I’m not sure the meme is the stupid one here, you’ve just completely misunderstood the entire thing.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Fascism can't continue if the fascists are dead. You gotta fight smart.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (11 children)

And this is why I am a proud gun owning liberal.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 35 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Armed minorites are harder to oppress.

Didn't the gun laws in California happen specifically after black Panthers open carried near a town hall?

Could be misremembering

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

You are not misremembering.

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm a proud gun owning leftist and please don't confuse me with a liberal

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We don't have to like it, but it's undeniable that cops treat protestors in plated vests with rifles different than they treat protestors in tshirts with signs...

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Armed minorities are harder to oppress.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

The reason Cali has strict gun laws is ole Ronny Reagan got scared when he saw Black men with rifles marching in formation.

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

protestors in plated vests with rifles

that can be done peacefully, doesn't really support OP's point

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 hours ago

Why, yes. Setting the precedent that taking power by force is acceptable has never led to anything bad.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago
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