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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (53 children)

If anyone is looking for some ~~good~~ fucking amazing books by an awesome and genuinely fun and good natured dude, check out Jason Pargin, he is awesome and not problematic and his books are all bangers, and he also enabled and actively supports the careers of many other super awesome and creative people. Also, listen to Bigfeets.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Thing is Gaiman pissed off all feminists with the SA allegations so of course he has disappeared from the online world because the cross over between Neil Gaiman readers and SA-appologists is very small.

Whereas a sect of the feminists support her gatekeeping opinion that the only thing that can describe if you're a woman is being born with a cunt. This one very vocal audience is not unified.

On top of that Rowling is more mainstream than Gaiman is and the general public is more willing to ignore the mudslinging world of gender politics and not get involved if it means more content from a popular mediocre scribe.

[–] dandelion@piefed.blahaj.zone 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

yeah, agreed - Gaiman's fans are far less willing to tolerate his SA, HP fans are more general public and transphobia is more socially acceptable than SA.

Basically this post is essentially saying, "it's a shame transphobia is so acceptable to people"

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 34 points 5 days ago (5 children)

some googling later

Well, shit. Glad I buy secondhand books at every opportunity, otherwise I would have given money to a human sized pile of shit.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 30 points 5 days ago (5 children)

hp was a big part of my pre transition life when i was in the closet. i hate jk so i dont buy new things but i still do reread my existing books. leaky, pottercast, and starkid were the first places i fit in.

but i dont actively seek out pro rowling hp fandom tho. fuck rowling.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There's just so much entertainment and incredible creativity out there. I genuinely don't understand allegiances like this.

I love Sandman but tbh fuck that dude and I'll go read one of other million alternative stories that often are just as good if not better.

The competition in creative industry is just insane and switching is basically free compared to any other industry. Like, good luck switching from John Deere if you're a farmer but Harry Potter fans have zero barriers and still can't do it. Spineless, weak people.

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[–] swordfish@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (5 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

turns out he's not a gay man

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 20 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Sort of off topic. I think learning new things about an author can make re-reading their works interesting.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Oh look, another barely concealed fetish!

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 days ago (5 children)

didn't i just see any new sandman season announced though?

I feel like we have to be able to separate artists' bad behavior from our evaluation of the quality of their work.

Maybe there's a time limit? Maybe they have to be dead so they can't benefit from their work being sold.

Are there any non problematic artists/creators from 500 years ago who we nevertheless find their work product valuable to society today? What about science? Especially medicine with all the body snatching.

Neil Gaiman is almost certainly a sex pest based on all the women reporting. So I get not wanting to give him money. He hopefully gets it, too.

I like the suggestion of piracy as an approach...

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I would say it’s only possible, at least to the degree of Rowling, when the artist is dead. Someone can be a shitty person and not a monster, this is my regard for most actors, authors, and artists. cheat on your wife, have a drug abuse disorder, they're a pretentious asshole that’s hard to work with, or something like that and I can still appreciate their work, they’re not running some weird political agenda funded by their proceeds (Rowling), a cult (Jared Leto), or gross predatory sexual abuse and tape (Kevin Spacey, Diddy.) Anyone purposefully, knowingly, and actively doing harm to others is not something I'm willing to financially or artistically support. When they die and cannot benefit from the proceeds, the art can stand as an independent entity, but as long as it’s under their wing it will be problematic. Gwyneth Paltrow is a weird fucked up person, but I can still enjoy a performance from her, for example, but Cuba Gooding Jr. being involved with Diddy shit is a no go for me.

When it comes to J.K. Rowling, as far as I'm concerned, Death of The Author requires the actual death of the author, otherwise there is no negotiating that you are financially supporting her agenda outside of her art.

Edit: Another good example would be Orson Scott Card, as a human I despise him and his views, but he is simply outspoken about his views and never started a whole god damned foundation with the intent to try to codify his views into law, and I can still enjoy the works of his I enjoy with nothing more than “man, that guy is a bigoted asshole, how the hell did he manage to write such hard Sci-Fi?” If Rowling were simply outspoken about her views then that would be one thing, but she is actively trying to ruin people’s lives and cause social and political erasure of people she refuses to understand via the profits of her works.

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe not the most popular idea here, but I think there are a lot less Rowling fans, and a lot more Harry Potter fans. After all she didn't really write anything noteworthy after the Harry Potter books. And the HP themed stuff like Cursed Child and Fantastic Beasts she did after the main series is let's call it controversial, she's a one hit wonder. Gaiman wrote a lot more and had a lot more different main characters in different settings, as far as I know, I didn't read anything of his stuff.

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[–] Nay@feddit.nl 24 points 5 days ago (18 children)

I'm out of the loop. What happened with Neil Gaiman?

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