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Putin also hinted that Moscow stands ready to use a nuclear weapon if Kyiv’s forces used a so-called ‘dirty bomb’ - but Ukraine has denied it would ever do so

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-ukraine-russia-war-peace-talks-b2774375.html


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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Can this motherfucker just... like... fucking die already?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Serious question: What would happen if he did? Wouldn't that create a massive power vacuum?

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Some are saying those nextin line behind Putin are worse.

Worse in which ways? More violent.

Worse and able to get things done in a national context? Hard to know.

Yeah that’s the thing. They may be more violent but are they able to maintain stable control over the country? Might dissolve into chaos anyway.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You know, the IRA told Margaret Thatcher after a failed assassination attempt something to the effect of "You have to get lucky every single time. We only have to get lucky once." Which made me realize that these heads of state don't actually want to kill each other, that's never the goal these days - because if you really want that person dead, there are so many ways to do it. Eventually, you'll succeed.

Putin has enemies, but none of them are serious enough to overcome his defenses.

[–] match@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago

Fidel Castro got lucky like 300 times

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Putin continues to say the same things he has said since before Russia invaded Ukraine, news at 11.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This one is a doozy to break down, because so much of what putin says is just utter horseshit. A brief summary of the speculation: There's the obvious - this is Putin projecting strength to his people by reinforcing the nuclear threat they still hold over the world, this is Russia signaling specific terms under which they would deploy their nuclear arsenal (the quiet part is that they could false-flag those conditions. Obviously Ukraine would never use a dirty bomb; they dont want to poison their own land and they gain nothing by denying russian land to Russia. But Russia could set a dirty bomb if the war starts goes badly enough for them!) - and the less obvious, like the speculation that this is an attempt to softly force Ukrainian strategy away from using weapons that could be dirty bombs (or convincingly converted to them) in order to retain as much plausible deniablity as possible in the even Russia does fake a dirty bomb and then attempts to sue for concessions or face retaliation.

(Really it's unlikely to be the grand elaborate scheme just based on putin being a dumbass, but it can't be discounted completely.)

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No one outside Russia would believe in a birty bomb false flag, IMO, but who knows, putin doesn't seem to logical. Just look at the terror bombings, totally worthless for his military advancements. Hitler did the same because he was like angry with GB. We know how that ended, but man does it feel slow... Must be so frustrating for the Ukrainians.

[–] ghostlychonk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There's at least 30% of the US that would believe it wholeheartedly.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of the curses of humanity is that it's always the madmen who rise to rule other, normal, decent human beings.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Those who seek power over others don't deserve it.

This is a fundamental truth.

The solution is in the creation of democratic structures that are tyranny-resistant. Anarcho-syndicalism is one good option. Following in the work the Kurds of Northern Syria did in Rojava is even better. Democratic Confederalism is the model we need going into the future of climate change catastrophes. It is, quite simply, the best model we have at the moment, and it is astoundingly well-tested.

For the record, I consider myself solidly post-Left, which traditionally has disagreed quite a bit with Bookchin. But I give a shit about results and Rojava demonstrated efficacy.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/dor-shilton-in-the-heart-of-syria-s-darkness-a-democratic-egalitarian-and-feminist-society-emer

[–] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Death rattle of a failed regime.

Enjoy your drone enema, Pootin'.