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[โ€“] 30p87@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl -2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Not so sure about that. I mean vw is an actual car company so in that aspect they will easily deliver a superior product but i read nothing about the technology that's gonna make it happen. Tesla's can do quite a lot quite well already compared to any other commercially available car and vw is (like the rest of the European car industry) years behind on the software required to achieve real autonomous driving. I mean i'd really like this to succeed but wouldn't call it a low bar.

[โ€“] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

More than likely they're going to cooperate with Bosch and some more specialized companies to make this happen. This is then going to be used by other manufacturers as well.

[โ€“] SW42@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Had some training with the guys that develop the driver assist tech for VW and many more. It was at about that time when Tesla launched the autopilot. They said they would be terrified and couldnโ€™t live with their conscience launching it in that state / only using cameras.

This is to say that regulations and some sort of regard for ethics means that whatever gets put out by these companies will be a step above in Reliability and safety.

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

whatever gets put out by these companies will be a step above in Reliability and safety.

I expect nothing less, this has been true for many other things when comparing eu things to us things, but this argument would also mean nokia would eventually release an iPhone killer and we all know that didn't happen either. Don't get me wrong I'd really like vw to beat tesla, but they haven't got anything riding on public roads yet afaik

[โ€“] SW42@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The bmw 7 series has advanced self driving features where you are allowed to take your hands off the steering wheel in some circumstances

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't know they got to that point already, but I think VW would want it's own system and not license it from BMW. We'll have to wait and see how fast they can realise their goals.

[โ€“] SW42@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.bmwgroup.com/en/innovation/automated-driving.html this is the release from them. I believe the s class Mercedes has something similar

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 3 points 8 hours ago

Thanks, though Mercedes might be less likely to share their tech considering they have their own vans (and trucks too).

[โ€“] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

๐Ÿคฃ

[โ€“] Geobloke@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the most interesting thing was that they were going to try level 4 on selected roads in what sounds like rural Germany as well as LA. Perhaps after these training roads they'll havemore confidence to push the product further

I also love how streets ahead has somehow survived Pierce from community

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Geobloke@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you don't know it, you're streets behind

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago
[โ€“] 30p87@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tesla threw any chances away by choosing purely camera based systems. I'd guess that VW does not repeat that mistake.

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

Let's hope not, but I also read somewhere lidar has its problems too, not for the system itself but for tech surrounding it. Distorting camera's or something. I'm not that technical. Europe can use a tech win, so if this is it I'm totally fine with it.

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

VW already has a buyer,ย the Uber taxi service company. The two firms signed an agreement in April for cooperation in the US. According to Senger, Uber plans to purchase up to 10,000 VW e-vans over the next ten years.

You can hate Uber for many things but them buying 10,000 units is definitely a nice foot in the door to the american market (which has a lot of money, which is required to go from cool idea to real product.