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Since ICE refuses to show their badge and cops refuse to verify, welcome to the future.
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this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2025
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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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There's no reason everyone that protests shouldn't be dressed exactly like ice.
Krasnov and his fucking thugs set the precedence.
I like the concept of planting this idea in people's minds, but then (even more) innocents will die.
This is the plan
Trump thinks that people will then demand a strongman president to protect them.
I don't think Trump thinks this. I think his puppeteers think this and he is just the shameless puppet.
Why do we have to pin a country on this action? Sure, now, it would be easy for Iran to do something. It would be just as easy for some group of people, like those who tried to kidnap Gretchen Widmar, or Vance Boelter wannabes.
Trump, Pam Bondi, and Tom Homan have unleashed chaos. Plus SCOTUS.
Because a certain demographic of the US doesn't give a shit unless something personally affects them. Homegrown terrorism doesn't affect them because obviously they won't be the targets. Iranian terrorism is scary to them.
It's a big country, the USA. I have a hard time sometimes remembering we have 340 million human running around. It's easy to believe things don't affect us. But, it's like I tell people, when one human in Indiana loses their First Amendment right, we all do. We may not immediately feel it but the precedent has been set.
I'm specifically talking about Republicans. You could show any amount of atrocities to them and they'll hand wave it until it personally affects them. Head over to leapordsatemyface for some good examples of people yelling "I didn't vote for this!" when it's literally exactly what they voted for.
We keep pinning shit on other countries. My parents used to say "there are starving children in Africa" as if there weren't any homeless children in our neighborhood.
True. I remember riding the bus thinking some of my friends were probably starving. 99.99% of us are closer to being starving and homeless than we are to Jeff Bezos. We don't vote like, though.
Fuck this imperial terrorism propaganda. USA is the actual terror regime. Get a clue, libs.
Why would you direct this at libs when the right are the ones going batshit crazy?
Leftists do not like libs. Many leftists believe that liberals contribute to setting up the breeding ground that fascists rise from. Many leftists believe that liberals partake in a system that even allows for fascism to rise.
I do not care to explain further. Research can be done, or perhaps someone else with a bit more energy than I right now can jump in :)
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Some people want to place blame to absolve themselves of any responsibility they may have.
"Not my circus, not my monkeys. Not my problem, just the countries."
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Far Right wing (Republicans) literally having full control of everything
Blames only the libs
Internationally, most people mean the pro-corporate anti-regulation right when they say liberals. It's exclusively a U.S. thing afaik to equate liberalism with anything left of center, which causes a lot of confusion.
That doesn't change what I said. There's fascism in power now in the USA, not liberals anymore. That's why I specified far right rather than standard right.
the libs know about it, they helped set it up.
How about both
amplifying the "iranian terrorists are coming to get us" narrative hurts brown people more than it helps anything
using one racist narrative to fight another.
You're not wrong but the people in charge and those voting for them only seem to understand this type of rhetoric. If we don't break their hold on power it will only get worse for Iranians (and Americans).
A far more likely scenario is a certain secret agency will do so as a false flag operation. Public opinion in the US is still not supportive of a war against Iran but that could change.
I mean if an unidentified person in a mask tries to abduct me they're getting shot in the face.
i expect itll actually be more like this;
you're walking from the car to the grocery store in the carpark
it goes black and your arms are pinioned to your sides.
too late to draw a gun.
Its not gonna be "a person", its gonna be "a gang". Goodluck if you don't have like a militia to protect you.
Either die on the spot defending yourself or either die eherever they might take you. "never go to a second location" is the wisdom
So foreign terrorists could cosplay as domestic terrorists and we’d have no way of knowing which kind of terrorist they are?
Interesting times we live in
If they come for you, don’t worry your bags will meet you at the destination. Get on the train.
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Yes, because you chose it? Can you just not choose idiotic things perhaps?
"make money, fuck wratchet bitches."
I'd love so much if that worked.
It's a tough world for people that hate daily and their victims
Or why average Americans don't just do the same and go rob a bank or convenience store ... just arrest people randomly, zip tie them, take all the money and leave everyone behind.
The best part would be the local news reporting the masked robbers looked like this and ask if anyone has spotted them
No body armor
I noticed that too, I hope they get what's coming to them.
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Are the Iranian terrorist cells in the room with us right now? Why not go with the much more common example of white supremacist domestic terrorism?
Sources told NBC News Iran sent a communication to President Donald Trump in the days before Saturday night's strikes on its nuclear facilities, threatening to activate sleeper-cell terror inside the United States if it were attacked.
I'll have manufacturing consent for $500, Alex.
what part of "thought exercise" do you not understand. its an extrapolation of current events, and hypothetical scenarios. not a statement of a factual event that has happened. You cant imagine this occuring?
Here's a way to improve the "thought exercise": make it take place in reality instead he imaginary world racists live in.
Because media gaslighting works so well that people usually aren't aware that they've been affected by counterfactual narratives before they start actively reinforcing them by repetition.
The Google trends for this particular phrase:
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Yes although the recent political murders shows that you can literally just dress up as a cop and drive around in a fake police car shooting people in the head. This stuff has always been possible.
The difference now is that refusing to show ID used to be grounds for most people to call the real police.
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