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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 171 points 2 weeks ago (32 children)

Whether you had fun and the quality of the movie are not entirely related.

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[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Me enjoying a movie does in no way exclude it from being a bad movie.

Seeing as I do enjoy watching bad movies. Terrible acting, bad cuts, awful dialog. I love it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Terrible acting, bad cuts, awful dialog. I love it.

I think there's a certain "The Producers" threshold beyond which a merely bad piece of art becomes a captivating car-wreck. But it's an esoteric mix of elements. For every "Rocky Horror Picture Show" there's a dozen "Mac and Me"s.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Must be nice to be able to just completely switch off your brain like that.

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[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Good movies are self-aware. Not everything needs to be a masterpiece of acting and cinematography, or have the best effects, or the best writing. But they have to know what they are. I don't mean breaking the fourth wall or self-deprecating humor. More like understanding their limits.

The people making Sharknado knew they were doing a campy action film (series) with sharks in tornadoes. Fun Movie. Would watch again.

M. Night Shyamalan is a great writer and director, but a lot of his films have a feeling of over-dramatized self-importance, where it seems like he really wants you to know how clever he is. So they get panned.

Chrisopher Nolan (I think) puts similar importance on symbols and archetypes with a dramatic and artistic style, but his movies have a feel of like "I don't give a shit if you get it, just enjoy the ride." He makes good films.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Zak Snyder makes AMAZING visuals and set pieces.

He can kinda string together the main bits of a plot, but the dude can’t write to save his life.

Rebel Moon had the ingredients for a decent 7 samurai sci-fi thing. But holy fuck did he go so far style over substance with it that all the substance was left out 😆

Same with JJ Abrams, dude makes good visuals and can start a mystery box plot like very few can.

But for the love of all that’s holy, don’t let him decide what’s in the box.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Zak Snyder makes AMAZING visuals and set pieces.

I have never been able to set the brightness high enough to see them though.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The movie itself doesn't even have to be aware of it. You just need some link back to it.

Take Street Fighter, The Three Musketeers, or Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. Absolute dog shit, all three of them. But then an actor appears who knows exactly what he's in. All villains in these cases. They know it's bad. It's a pantomime. Amateur hour all over the place. The script is awful, the leads can't act, half of them are snorting coke between takes, or getting drunk. They've been here before.

But they've decided that they're going to enjoy it anyway, and now, so can you.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Where are you getting your movies? Very few people are just raw-dogging random titles off a database. You mean you kinda enjoyed the movie that the Netflix algorithm showed you? Funny enough, I had almost this exact same argument with a friend the other day about how she "doesn't believe there's any bad movies."

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 weeks ago

I go to my favorite piracy source and look at new releases. Its like sorting by New+All on Lemmy :)

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I mean hey, if you have low standards, and you're completely honest about it, nothing wrong with that... and it also puts the onus on the people with higher standards to actually explain why they do or do not like any given movie, easier to suss out the people who don't actually have consistent standards, but instead just have an amalgamation of their favorite influencers opinions.

Win win win as I see it. I'm a bit of a movie snob, and I can explain why I do or don't like a movie...

But I am also self-aware enough to realize that other people have other standards, and 90% of the time, if there isn't some utterly reprehnsible trope or caricature or very very misleading depiction of real events in a 'based on a true story' type thing... eh, whatever, we have different tastes, wanna get pizza?

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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Critical thinking is an endangered practice.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Media literacy is a threat to a lot of production houses' business models

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

dude is stuck at a toddler level

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I mean, I can certainly tell whether a movie is objectively good or bad while watching it, but that rarely correlates with my enjoyment of the movie. I can separate "this is really badly made/has bad writing/is a ridiculous premise" and "this is a fun distraction from the daily routine".

I kind of feel like being unable to make that separation and not being able to enjoy movies that are "bad" must be an exhausting and miserable experience.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Good movie: the one you enjoy

Bad movie: the one you don't

Simple as that, my metric of scoring isn't good or bad, it's whether i enjoy it or whether it annoy me. I pick what i watch and will go through review and score so most of the time i know i gonna enjoy it, but sometime an outlier will pops up. I'm still not over how annoyed i am for 28 Weeks Later.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Movies can be fun bad tbh. They can have cheap budgets, horribly low quality CGI, but still be a fun watch.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yea but this is telling the difference beyween a good and bad movie

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like 10% of the time you did not have fun watching a movie. That's a bad movie.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Sometimes bad movies are fun to watch.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

'So bad it's good' is one of my favorites. But you have to be prepared going into it. If you start a 'so bad it's good' film wanting something decent, you'll be disappointed. If you go in planning to enjoy the terrible, ridiculous, and ridiculous and/or banality, you'll probably enjoy it. If that's your thing.

My favorites of this genre are 'Hobo with a shotgun', 'Dead Snow' (sequel is actually good), and 'rubber'.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm the exact opposite. I struggle to get through 90% of movies regardless of how good people think they are, especially since they only keep getting longer and longer.

Hell, the only movies I can get through are the ones that are so bad they're actually interesting

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Congrats, you’re sane. Most entertainment media is objectively bad. That’s just statistically undeniable. Unless you think everyone is a good writer and storyteller.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Huh. 90% of the time I'm like "this is a bad movie"

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

I'm exactly like that, but the other way around. 90 % of the movies I watch I don't enjoy. Mayhap it's just not my medium. Makes the 10 % I did enjoy realy worth it tough.

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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I 100% get this and I think a lot of people are missing the point. It's like going to a football game without knowing the rules, which team is better, or who is winning and having fun anyway. It's not having fun watching people suck because shitty football can be funny.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Some movies (Marvel, Fast and Furious, Transformers) are Pepperoni Pizza. They are not a 7 course dining experience because THEY DIDNT SET OUT TO BE!

If you sit down to a pizza and tell me its the worst soup you ever had, you're a dumbass.

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[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Enshrining illiteracy is a proud American tradition.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Somebody needs to introduce Thomas here to MST3K. There is no better teacher than experience.

[–] creamlike504@jlai.lu 10 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

You saw someone enjoying themselves and thought, "Somebody needs to fix that."?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you saying MST3K is not fun? Because if so, this is war.

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[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

I too have no media literacy

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Hey, one of my cringe memories that randomly pops up when I try to go to sleep!

"So what did you think, pretty good right?"

"Ahahah what??? No, it was shit!"

It was Wild Things, feel free to confirm that it was indeed shit.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

To have no opinion other than gratefulness is... Concerning.