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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Banana industry and fossil fuel industry need to declare war on each other.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

bananas have other problems like a fungus/infection wiping out a single genetic orgin cultivar.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Gros Michel is where artificial banana flavoring comes from. You can actually still get them, but they are around $90 per pound of bananas. There's a greenhouse in Florida that can still grow them. I ordered a bunch of them a few years ago, and can confirm they taste like artificial banana, though not as sweet as most things that are banana flavored.

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I literally do not care about the banana industry

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People care when foods they've been eating are no longer available in quantity or at a reasonable price.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, nature doesn't.

They have no ability to reproduce anymore. Not the kind we regularly eat anyway. We bred them to have non-viable seeds, thus no offspring, thus no ability to evolve or adapt to changing environments or stressors.

Every banana tree is a clone of the original batch.

This just means that with climate change, it will become impossible to grow those trees, and that variety will go extinct.

Honestly, we should let it. The agriculture practices required to keep them are just plain unsustainable, both ecologically and economically.

This isn't even going into the controversy around the political side of the industry as well with subpar worker conditions and abuse of rights.

So the alternative argument of "I'll be mildly inconvenienced from not having near constant access to bananas" kinda loses its legitimacy in comparison.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

There are a lot of crops that are grown as huge clone monocultures. Potatoes. Garlic. Any given apple, stonefruit, and citrus all come to mind.