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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

We need a political party with an exactly two line manifesto

  1. Introduce Proportional Representation
  2. Call another election as soon as PR gets royal assent

One of the few benefits of Reform if they do get in is they do support PR. Whether that support will dissolve the second they win under FPTP remains to be seen. The Liberals in Canada pulled that particular stunt after decimating the Conservatives there

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago

Agreed. A single issue party tackling electoral reform. Probably something that Reform, the Lib Dems, the SNP, Greens & Plaid could band together and support. I would have zero faith in Reform actually going through with it though if they did gain a majority.

[–] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What this country really needs is proportional representation.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

We had a chance at a version of it, but we blew it.

I drank the establishment kool aid at the time and voted no on AV

It's honestly one of my biggest life regrets

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Proportional representation, constitution and a proper separation of powers.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

The chips are going down. If this backfires it'll end Corbyn's political career, if it succeeds it'll replace labour like the SNP did in Scotland.

This is a big gamble and it's crunch time.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago

Corbyn, being 76, is due retirement anyway. i doubt he has much to lose at this point and everything to gain

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Corbyn's leadership days were over. Looked like he was going to finish out representing his constituents.

I don't think he wants to do this, but he may feel it needs to happen.

He cares less about his needs and more about the people. Politics was brutal for him.

[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Good luck to the new party. Labour is shit

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] theo@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Sultana was elected as a Labour MP at the 2024 general election but was suspended not long after, and has since sat in the Commons as an independent.

Not sure if this is incompetence or an editorial decision, but this reads like she was only a Labour MP for a few weeks when in fact she was elected in the 2019 election. Kinda lessens the impact of her leaving.

[–] goatbeard@beehaw.org 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Why didn't he do this ten years ago?

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

10 years ago he was head of one of the largest political parties in parliament. Throwing that away at that point would have been ludicrous

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Because he alienated all the independent MPs in Parliament in a disastrous anti-May Deal meeting, where he could have stopped an extreme Brexit and toppled the Government, but as soon as the independents entered the room he refused to talk to them and stormed out in a huff.

So 10 years ago, no-one would want to work with him. He isn’t a consensus politician.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

i have no doubts corbyn will be great but i hope that any party started will have an iron clad no transphobia or bigotry line built straight into the charter :(

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

I hope so and it is something that most socialists hold core to their values.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I liked John MacDonnel a lot but Corbyn's views on international affairs were a real turn off

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Which ones? Genuinely interested.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I liked his Palestine stance but his EU stance was underwhelming and showed he didn't really understand protections everyone enjoyed under EU law.

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 points 46 minutes ago

I struggled to understand his Brexit stance - a bit like Mick Lynch. Something about EU membership preventing future nationalisation.

I'm more interested in his other international views... though I should really just look it up.