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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He is a racist and a bigot

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 days ago

Jordan Peterson is a charlatan

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (6 children)

So.... A good candidate for the next US president?

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 46 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sealioning (source) + whataboutism. A very cheap method of trolling and exhausting the opponent of the argument which relies on the victim being unaware of sealioning and they're being sealioned. It's frustrating seeing JP fans think this is proof he's a genius. it's like Ben Shapiro, another rightwing "influencer" who constantly speaks fast and gish gallops on purpose and his fans think he's a genius for that too

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don’t forget the constant motte and bailey.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That, too. For people who don't know what that is (source)

The motte-and-bailey fallacy (named after the motte-and-bailey castle) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy where an arguer conflates two positions that share similarities: one modest and easy to defend (the "motte") and one much more controversial and harder to defend (the "bailey").[1] The arguer advances the controversial position, but when challenged, insists that only the more modest position is being advanced.[2][3] Upon retreating to the motte, the arguer may claim that the bailey has not been refuted (because the critic refused to attack the motte)[1] or that the critic is unreasonable (by equating an attack on the bailey with an attack on the motte).[4]

[–] mikezeman@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

Thanks for teaching me something new!

Also your username is very apt for this thread.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 47 points 6 days ago (2 children)

False inductive reasoning combined with butwhataboutism and sealinoning. All designed to exhaust the opponent and muddy the argument. Conservatives love this form of argument.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dragging your opponent into the weeds does not a good argument make

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 10 points 6 days ago

You i thank

[–] sxan@midwest.social 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"Colloquialism, motherfucker! Do you speak it‽"

Edit: corrected autocorrect incorrection

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The "motherfucker" forced me to hear this in Samuel L Jackson's voice.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

After not receiving the fried Jordan cries in his car.

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My dog is an intellectual powerhouse compared to Jordan Peterson fans.

Lol. I just Googled him and his YouTube channel description reads...

"Join intellectual phenomenon Dr. Jordan B. Peterson for enlightening discourse"

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's a phenomenon how much he lacks any intellectual capabilities.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

Currently watching a Peterson debate... This is just too perfect.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So, I haven't heard much about JP in a while,and now I've heard a podcast and this. Is it just coincidence or is there a reason we're talking about him again? The podcast mentioned he'd gone on some show debating Christianity with 20 atheists. It went as you might imagine, where jp argued that atheists were Christian because they didn't understand the thing they say they don't believe in. Idk. Anyway -- any other reason I'm hearing about him again?

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's mostly just that. The whole thing was a mess. The atheists were told they would be debating a Christian and prepared as such, but he won't define himself as a Christian. So much time is wasted dancing around that. They had to change the title from Christian debates to Jordan Peterson debates. On top of that he will barely engage properly, saying things like he won't entertain a hypothetical because he wouldn't allow himself to get in that situation in the first place. Just generally not acting in good faith.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 days ago

The guy is a notorious rhetorical shitmuffin.

He just strings fallacies together and his crowd along.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago

he was seen crying while have an emotional outburst arguing someone recently.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

My father tried to tell me what a "genius" he is. I told my father point blank, Jordan Peterson is only a genius to morons. He even gave me one of Peterson's self help books, I immediately tossed it in the trash. Though, in retrospect, I probably should have tried to return it to Amazon and used the money to buy something more worthy of reading, like Chick Tracts. 😂 At least they're entertaining.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 6 days ago

JP is what a smart guy sounds like to meatheads. but a moron to anyone else.

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Reading this increased my blood pressure.

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

See? That means he won the argument. Checkmate, atheists.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Define "define".

[–] CircuitSpells@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I genuinely can't think of a better example of a modern day sophist than Jordan Peterson.

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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There is a great impression of him talking about Burger King that I have to share. He's doing this same kind of stupidity in this video. https://youtu.be/-BDgQMGs7Mc

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 6 days ago

looks like he came down from a benzo-booze binge.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Some person was showing me videos of him and telling me he was very smart, does anyone happen to know some good examples to get him to reconsider?

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

any of the debates against Matt Dillahunty or Sam Harris. he gets spanked pretty bad. they are a long watch though.

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[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Ask about his Benzo addiction that literally gave him brain damage. Which was what all his doctors predicted would happen.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Some More News has an interesting take down of JP from a couple of years ago that totally isn't 3 hours long that I really enjoyed. There's also a newer one released last week, but I haven't watched it yet.

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[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

That was the dumbest thing I have read today…

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