He is a racist and a bigot
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Jordan Peterson is a charlatan
Sealioning (source) + whataboutism. A very cheap method of trolling and exhausting the opponent of the argument which relies on the victim being unaware of sealioning and they're being sealioned. It's frustrating seeing JP fans think this is proof he's a genius. it's like Ben Shapiro, another rightwing "influencer" who constantly speaks fast and gish gallops on purpose and his fans think he's a genius for that too
Don’t forget the constant motte and bailey.
That, too. For people who don't know what that is (source)
The motte-and-bailey fallacy (named after the motte-and-bailey castle) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy where an arguer conflates two positions that share similarities: one modest and easy to defend (the "motte") and one much more controversial and harder to defend (the "bailey").[1] The arguer advances the controversial position, but when challenged, insists that only the more modest position is being advanced.[2][3] Upon retreating to the motte, the arguer may claim that the bailey has not been refuted (because the critic refused to attack the motte)[1] or that the critic is unreasonable (by equating an attack on the bailey with an attack on the motte).[4]
Thanks for teaching me something new!
Also your username is very apt for this thread.
False inductive reasoning combined with butwhataboutism and sealinoning. All designed to exhaust the opponent and muddy the argument. Conservatives love this form of argument.
Dragging your opponent into the weeds does not a good argument make
Thanks Yoda
You i thank
"Colloquialism, motherfucker! Do you speak it‽"
Edit: corrected autocorrect incorrection
The "motherfucker" forced me to hear this in Samuel L Jackson's voice.
My dog is an intellectual powerhouse compared to Jordan Peterson fans.
Lol. I just Googled him and his YouTube channel description reads...
"Join intellectual phenomenon Dr. Jordan B. Peterson for enlightening discourse"
Currently watching a Peterson debate... This is just too perfect.
So, I haven't heard much about JP in a while,and now I've heard a podcast and this. Is it just coincidence or is there a reason we're talking about him again? The podcast mentioned he'd gone on some show debating Christianity with 20 atheists. It went as you might imagine, where jp argued that atheists were Christian because they didn't understand the thing they say they don't believe in. Idk. Anyway -- any other reason I'm hearing about him again?
It's mostly just that. The whole thing was a mess. The atheists were told they would be debating a Christian and prepared as such, but he won't define himself as a Christian. So much time is wasted dancing around that. They had to change the title from Christian debates to Jordan Peterson debates. On top of that he will barely engage properly, saying things like he won't entertain a hypothetical because he wouldn't allow himself to get in that situation in the first place. Just generally not acting in good faith.
The guy is a notorious rhetorical shitmuffin.
He just strings fallacies together and his crowd along.
he was seen crying while have an emotional outburst arguing someone recently.
My father tried to tell me what a "genius" he is. I told my father point blank, Jordan Peterson is only a genius to morons. He even gave me one of Peterson's self help books, I immediately tossed it in the trash. Though, in retrospect, I probably should have tried to return it to Amazon and used the money to buy something more worthy of reading, like Chick Tracts. 😂 At least they're entertaining.
JP is what a smart guy sounds like to meatheads. but a moron to anyone else.
Reading this increased my blood pressure.
Define "define".
I genuinely can't think of a better example of a modern day sophist than Jordan Peterson.
There is a great impression of him talking about Burger King that I have to share. He's doing this same kind of stupidity in this video. https://youtu.be/-BDgQMGs7Mc
looks like he came down from a benzo-booze binge.
Some person was showing me videos of him and telling me he was very smart, does anyone happen to know some good examples to get him to reconsider?
any of the debates against Matt Dillahunty or Sam Harris. he gets spanked pretty bad. they are a long watch though.
Ask about his Benzo addiction that literally gave him brain damage. Which was what all his doctors predicted would happen.
Some More News has an interesting take down of JP from a couple of years ago that totally isn't 3 hours long that I really enjoyed. There's also a newer one released last week, but I haven't watched it yet.
That was the dumbest thing I have read today…