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It’s one thing to vicariously be a decent person and virtue signal by sharing such a meme, but actually paying for it? Fuck no.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

its a sign on a door, calm down

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Another poor soul saved from the orphan crushing machine. How heartwarming.

[–] kubica@fedia.io 48 points 1 week ago

A bit off topic, but this is why I avoid communities for "uplifting news". It sounds like a good concept at first, but then most of the news are based on that.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't want my tax money saving people from destitution. I want that guy to do it so I can read about it on social media.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

And they call it doomscrolling! I do it to pat myself on the back!

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is charity, not Socialism. This is providing help at the whim of one person's desires or beliefs. Charity has its place but society should use its resources to offer help to everyone in need.

Edit: And just to be clear, when we talk about socialism, we are talking about democratic socialism. That doesn't mean there isn't free market commerce, it just means that the market is regulated. Even the U.S. regulates its free market.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's not socialism because it says nothing about the workers owning the means of production

The response is still relevant because the premise of socialism is that the industrial and agricultural revolutions have increased production to such an extent that there is no reason for anyone to go hungry.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's true, most conservatives want to be entertained and heart-warmed by the idea of feeding the homeless but they don't want to do it themselves.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

And they're willing to pay more money to not do it rather than do it!

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

“But I want credit for my acts of kindness.”

-The Righteous Right

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

How can I get into heaven if I don't get the points myself? Collective good works are only half credit.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this work better if it was on the dumpster?

[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Having it on the door makes it performative, doesn't it

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep. If it was on the dumpster, they might actually have to give a plate or two away.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

You guys are assuming there isn't one on the dumpster with no evidence of that. You're creating your own realities based on bias.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Fundamental misunderstanding. Conservatives would actually call this a win for their side IMO. This is because conservatives believe charity > socialism. If I were to be, er, charitable toward conservatives, I would say it's because they distrust government but believe in human generosity. They often really do believe in charity though, at least the comparatively sane ones that I know; it's not something that they just say to deflect.

The problem with charity IMO is that it typically performs quite poorly. The average charity is 100x less effective than the best charities (Givewell), and IIRC this is essentially true regardless of what metric you use for "best." It's also fundamentally not a fair way to distribute wealth; it doesn't help people with different problems equally; and it doesn't necessarily come from different sources in relation to how much they can give. Most people who donate have a narrow moral circle -- they care about some strangers much more than other strangers, based on questionable things like race, proximity, or religion. (Some might object to me citing Effective Altruism here, fair enough, but if you're already coming from the perspective that charity is the best way to improve the lives of those less fortunate, then it's really hard to argue with the research EA has done.)

The way I see socialism is essentially scaled-up, fair, and mandatory charity.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Conservatives would actually call this a win for their side IMO.

Abstractly. But as soon as they see it happening in person, they begin frantically dialing the police.

That's why Houston Food Not Bombs needed to get a court order forbidding the police for repeatedly ticketing them for no reason.

it’s really hard to argue with the research EA has done.

It's not.

Effective altruism distills all of ethics into an overriding variable: suffering. And that fatally oversimplifies the many ways in which the living world can be valuable. Effective altruism discounts the ethical dimensions of relationships, the rich braid of elements that make up a “good life,” and the moral worth of a species or a wetland.

But setting that aside, the idea of charity is rooted in the theory that you need a popular buy-in before you can achieve significant lasting change.

That's not wrong on its face. But the modern incarnations of charity are so heavily focused on the populism (flashy PR campaigns, obnoxious and invasive marketing strategies, charity as spectacle to drive more engagement) that they often fail to deliver their states goals.

The issue isn't merely of one's moral circle, it is of one's visual range and economic heft. When you're relying on a few plutocrats to dictate philanthropic social policy, you're banking heavily on their omniscience.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

America was so horrified at the sight of bread lines that we stopped giving the bread

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If we could trust every last person to act on charity, and every person to accept charity only when they need it, socialism wouldn't be required.

But will this sign change when a small homeless camp sets up on their doorstep?

Supporting the public comes with its own unique set of problems. You need to do this kind of thing at scale, or it will fracture and fall apart.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

But if we have socialism, how will the rich give the poor people the breadcrumbs to stroke their ego and appear like a benevolent monarch? Think of their feelings!

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What’s with the Windows 95 style inset border and black border on this?

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Screenshots have gone too far. Time to learn how to save images properly.

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[–] J92@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would the person that goes through the bins go to the front of the shop to look at a piece of paper on the glass. Surely you'd post this on the bin that night?

Feels like I could write a hand written receipt from oxfam, thanking me for the 8 figure donation, and put it on my tinder profile.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a design flaw that many people get more satisfaction out of other people's charitable actions than their own.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The love the idea of performative goodness which costs them less than a dollar one time which they can then milk endlessly for good vibes with their fellow man buuuuut they really don't want to come off $300 every month so that the young woman who works in the same establishment can have enough to feed her kids well. It costs a lot more it scales and nobody personally thanks them or sees them being a good person when they pay the IRS to fund this. If they pay the IRS that is.

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