We had some British software developers visit our group once and the contrast was stark. They wore suits and business dresses and we wore jeans and t-shirts. I mentioned the difference and one said they were expected to look professional. One of my gang said we were expected to write good code.
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Never trust an IT guy in full suit and tie.
That might have just been because they were visiting, In my experience with software devs over here (three of my friends in the roles, and me having applied for some) it is more so jeans and t-shirt, at a push business casual, never suits though unless it's a posh function
I feel like Americans would freak out in the most incredible way if they had hs uniforms
We kinda have them, but we freaked out and largely discontinued them.
One of the core tenets of fascism is uniformity. Give trump some time to cook and I'm sure he'll make school uniforms mandatory soon enough.
See what I mean
Yeah, the Americans are smarter than the rest of us on this issue. Good pointing out.
Many do. Mostly Catholics though, and those kids are a little intense. My wife was smoking in the bathroom and dating while I was painting minis
I think 3 of the dozen or so public schools around where I grew up had uniforms (lucky me, I went to one of them, ugh), while every private school (90% of which were some flavor of christian) had them. Most were more along the lines of 'dress code' than uniform though. I'm remembering khaki pants and bland colored polos more so than the blazer/tie/coat thing. It's probably because it's hot as balls on leather in the sun around here, so anything more than that would be killing kids or the AC budget.
Private schools exist
I'm American, I had a uniform, and idk, I kinda liked it. Didn't have to think about what to wear in the morning.
I'm currently living in Texas near thr Dallas area and almost all schools here have uniforms and clear plastic backpacks. It's odd to see for someone who never dealt with such things but its the norm here.
Every time I go to my kid's school, I am amazed at the difference between my day and now.
That time I went, there were kids just in pajamas and slippers. Not just one or two, dozens, and it wasn't some special day.
Then there's the dressier kids in lounge pants and whatever giant tshirt they pulled out of a drawer (or laundry basket) that were obviously their version of pajamas. Shit, one girl had very obviously rolled out of bed, thrown some leggings under her nightgown, slipped into crocs and jumped on the bus.
It's pretty cool tbh. Just no fucks given for meaningless frippery unless the individual kid/family wants it. Most of the kids were relaxed, nobody giving them shit for the way they're dressed, staff not even noticing at all. That's the way it should be imo. Whatever gets the kids in their seats and keeps everyone relatively engaged.
Yeah, there were still plenty of jeans and t-shirt sorts, a few of the button up shirt variants, and a handful of clothes hounds. But nobody was giving anyone shit about the clothes. From what my kid says, that wasn't just the case for the hour or so i was there that day.
We insist on clothes that are weather appropriate and acceptable for an emergency, but beyond that after seeing the norms there, we stopped giving a fuck.
My highschool experience (I'm 19, so not that long ago), was pretty much exclusively t-shirts and jeans. In fact I never wear anything BUT jeans. I uh... I even wear them to bed which has me labelled as a psychopath by the majority
My high school look was so extra that if you lived in Seattle 25 years ago just talking about my hair and jacket could dox me.
Becky?
Edit: Oh ... Hi Brad.
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My high school look started off so extra. It pivoted so slightly, yet thoroughly, to whatever the opposite of extra is, that if I described it and dropped a location I'd probably dox myself.
Would the bottom right image be considered overdressed for you? Because that would have been a common sight at my school, at least the type of clothes. Not just the rich kids either. Could be a cultural thing but like this is Southern Germany I'm talking about, not Paris or Milan 😅
I live in Seattle and those girls look like they are about to go to a club and not school to me. Granted in my area if I, as a man, wear a shirt with buttons on it to the office I feel like I am dressing up.
In my experience in American high school (20 or so years ago now) I wouldn't say they're ridiculously overdressed, but certainly kind of an outlier, we might've had a couple girls dress like that on any given day. They'd also probably be violating or at least very close to the limits of my school's dress code with the skirt lengths.
The left one looks about right to me though. Maybe slightly more dressed up than average, but would blend into most crowds well enough. Except for the heels, I wasn't exactly looking at people's shoes but I don't remember anyone ever wearing heels to school unless there was some sort of special event.
In general, I'd say the average high schooler back then wore a t shirt or maybe a sports jersey, and if it was cold maybe some of them wore a flannel shirt sweater of some kind (mostly the girls for sweaters)
A hoodie if it was cold
Jeans, sweatpants, sometimes pajama pants, shorts when it was hot out, cargo pants (mostly the guys) and once in a while some of the girls would mix in a skirt or dress, but not often.
You'd also get a handful of preppier kids with khakis and polo shirts or a button-up, a few goths or artsy types, etc. who might wear something crazy, the one weirdo who wore a suit, etc.
But mostly it was jeans or sweatpants and a t shirt.
I was more of a cargo pants and t shirt guy myself.
I don't pay too much attention to what my local teenagers are doing these days, but from what I've seen of them it looks like they've slipped further towards the sweatpants and pajamas end of the spectrum.
American here.
Every single one of those girls would have been sent home for "inappropriate clothing" at my school.
From what I've heard from Americans, the standard of dress for basic tasks like going to the shop is apparently high compared to the same in America
Went to HS in the late 90s. I didn't "dress up" but I didn't want to look grundge or a homeless person. My classmates used to call me Metro or a yuppie.
Every girl wore sweats, and every guy dressed like a hobo in the 90s.
Looking Metro means you got style
No it means you have to fight Nazis, Commies, and figure out what the fuck the dark ones are doing.
Meangirls feels kinda accurate?
I remember the popular girls often dressed the way Lindsay Lohan did in that movie.
Then again, I graduated shortly before that movie came out, so it's been a while and my memory may have failed me
Graduated in '07 and yeah, all Mean Girls was missing was Happy Bunny and these fucking things:
Mean girls looks like my high school did.
I used to think that media isn't influencing my real life worldviews in a significant way. But now that I am older, I realised that media sold us impossible notions that so long as you live within your means, you could have a pretty good lifestyle as a young adult, while also eventually able to save money to buy your own house and raise a family. I kinda got that from Friends. Although now, that ship has sailed. These shows and movies were operating on the zeitgeist at the time during the economic boom in 1990s and 2000s (well the media is scripted as well, so of course there is bending reality). After the late 00's economic crash, as a millennial, we are forced to give up one desire and dreams over the other. We couldn't have it all unlike the older generations.
I feel worse for the younger generations following us. They are going to inherit a world that is literally cooking everyone, in spite the inspiration from Greta Thunberg to global protest against the inaction on climate change when they were kids. How could they feel more optimistic about the future like the boomers and Gen X? No wonder populist far right is gaining traction; the global liberal order failed all of us except for the few elites.
I didn't mean to go on a long serious musing over a post about high school clothings lol. It was a spur of the moment.
The thumbs through the belt loops thing lmao
It doesn't get much cooler than that.
Is the leftmost one "SO dressed up?" It's just skirts and pants and shirts.
In elementary school i thought there would coordinated dances at high-school events.
That's what they wanted you to believe. They've been selling us "culture" for decades. It's all a form of propaganda.
Big money bank dude goes to fashion show. Buys favorite designer. ~~Calls friend up who owns studio~~. Calls agent buddy who owns influences. Money exchanges hands at ~~Epstien Island~~ regular island. ~~Studio~~ influencers push designers line. Kids brainwashed by media to think designer clothes are what adult women wear and start cat fighting over outfits. Middling adults see kids trendy new style and start to steal it. Sales go up. Trend gets old. Rinse and repeat every year.
Luckily, from where I'm from, they were. :)
There was always that one kid, though. The hype beast on a budget that could turn 20 lewks on no money.