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Nintendo touts high employee retention rate after loss of Microsoft jobs rocks Xbox Game Studios (www.notebookcheck.net)

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago

TBF, even if they’re a shit company to their consumers it’s kind of funny for them to point out they still make boatloads of money while keeping employees since it makes others look bad.

“Efficiency” is smoke-blowing bull for the sake of putting a few more pennies in shareholder stocks. Stable profits are far more sustainable and better for the real economy (where real people spend real money) than infinite growth since having a regular paycheck allows people to continue buying things.

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 61 points 2 months ago

Nintendo are horrible to consumers but at least they understand the value of their staff. That's something I value more from a company. (depending on the extent of their anti-consumer practices, nintendo have definetly gone too far with their's)

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 53 points 2 months ago (18 children)

Nobody cares nintendo, you're still an asshole.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Worker protections and their enforcement have improved in recent years, but things still aren't fully there yet. That said, the whole karoshi thing is getting less and less, which is good. The problem now is less in the big corps and more in the smaller businesses since they end up having less oversight. My company even requires I record hours at my other job (my own company) and submit them to make sure they and I are not in violation of labor law for hours worked.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Worker protections and their enforcement have improved in recent years, but things still aren't fully there yet.

You'd think they'd have fixed it faster, since it's the primary factor in why so few Japanese people are having kids

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

I don't know that it is the primary factor, honestly. Jobs keep moving to places like Tokyo where daycare has a lottery system and is super expensive if one doesn't get into the free one. Add to that that, since corona and Russia's invasion of Ukraine, prices for a lot of things have gone up leading to a cost of living crisis. for many as wages stay stagnant.

Indeed, there was an election yesterday and these were some things that were being mentioned by politicians in the lead-up. In Tokyo, it looks like they are trying to make daycare and school tuition free, which would be a big help. Several schools have even had trouble properly providing meals lately because of the sudden rising costs of food (fees for school are paid at the beginning of the school year so schools have to budget for higher prices and will have worse meals at the beginning to avoid having money for none at the end). Even the far-right anti-foreigner party ran on some kind of payments for kids. Another party talked about getting things less centralized in Tokyo and trying to spread the population out or at least support hose that remain in the countryside.

As for why it wasn't faster, rules have been on the books forever, but people and culture make it different. People feel huge pressure not to make waves so they will clock out and continue working. The more recent legislation has actually addressed this and put some responsibility on the worker themself in my understand, which may help. Corona also showed people what could be and many were angry when forced to go back to the old status quo (and one can see comments about people's manners and patience on the train and other places getting worse in the time since). There's also what is called "power harassment" and the like and lots of old, entitled fuckheads in positions of power at companies who think they are untouchable and, thankfully, are slowly going away.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

You will never be laid off at a Japanese company.

They will just unassign you from tasks or reassign you to a boring menial task to make you resign.

That way they don't pay you severence and they pay way less for your unemployment insurance.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago

Nintendo is more focused on closing down stuoos they don't own, for the audacity of having similar generic ideas pulled from the real world in their games.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is some weird virtue signalling considering all the other things Nintendo does.

[–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes there is an option for a company or people to so good things with good intentions, good things with bad intentions, bad things with good intentions and just plain bad shit.

Not everything Nintendo does is bad nor is it good. But when doing a good thing, it can be just that. A good thing.

Yes, their community management sucks. Their trigger happiness with anything legal is awful. But they can do also do good things.

Life is not black and white.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Their other good thing in my eyes is not overextending.

They have been profitable for a long time, and built up a reserve. Shitty CEOs would demand they use those reserves to branch out into a VR division. Make a room-sized toy, a massively online Second Life space, a chain of theme parks. Anything to show they’re hiring, growing, and that the ROI will triple every few years.

Obviously, had they done any of that, they’d be doing a lot more firing now because they’d have no reserves once all those plans go belly up.

So, it’s likely helpful their culture is quartered in Japan where the long term health of the company is treasured and short term gains are not worshipped so much.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (8 children)

They won’t put your name in the credits

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[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

That's pretty nice. When everyone is laying off people by thousands, it's nice to see a company that provides stability to it's employees.

They of course aren't the only one, kudos to all such companies!

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't the Japanese have to stab themselves in the liver with a sword if they resign from one of their soul crushing 18 hour a day office jobs?

[–] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

You've fallen victim to propaganda, my friend.

It's only mandatory if they survive the fall...

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Afail: It's not easy to get out of a job due to it being a bad reflection on you/company.
So whoever can be blamed, will be blamed.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago

That's because Nintendo don't run a studio. It's a prison, where developers are protected from progress made by the outside world.

This is the only explanation for their online offerings.

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Microsoft: Fuck you, you piece of shit. I'm firing every one of you motherfuckers so I can buy another 30 Ferrari's.

Nintendo: We are not going to do that.

Lemmy: Fuck you, Nintendo!

You guys need to learn to take W's where you can get them. It's exhausting not being able to enjoy good news because you're always angry about something.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fuck both? but Microsoft harder?

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, a threesome then?

(Jokes aside, nobody in this thread is even talking about Microsoft. It's all directed at Nintendo. What the hell is up with that?)

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Title:

Nintendo touts high employee retention rate after loss of Microsoft jobs rocks Xbox Game Studios

Your 1st comment:

Microsoft: Fuck you, you piece of shit. I'm firing every one of you motherfuckers so I can buy another 30 Ferrari's.

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Obviously I wasn't including myself in that statement.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

microsoft: we just fired entire studios that we bought recently. we are building a master collection of IPs to do nothing with other than passively profit off of them forever using game pass. part of this master plan is to cause large instability in the video game industry through aforementioned mass layoffs. also we are quite literally helping a genocide.

lemmy: oh. that’s kinda shitty but I liked oblivion remastered :)

nintendo: we made our game 80$

lemmy: if anyone even thinks about liking some of your stuff they should be burned at the stake.

obviously im exaggerating to make a point, and no if you ask I don’t like nintendo. fuck them. but I think the reaction here is a bit disproportionate. a company could do all the evil in the world but as long as they don’t touch the sacrosanct consumer, it’s all good in the eyes of a gamer!

[–] BryceBassitt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No what?

[–] BryceBassitt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No to taking Was. This ain't one

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

No to was? Do you even English?

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Microsoft: Fuck you, you piece of shit. I’m firing every one of you motherfuckers so I can buy another 30 Ferrari’s.

Nintendo: We are not going to do that.

Lemmy: --

Lemmy: points PocketPair