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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I feel like the reason there's been a resurgance of posts rehashing this has to do with Zohran Mamdani winning a primary in the largest city in the United States. While being openly pro-palestinian AND using the Socialist word positively to boot.

If Harris had won it is highly plausible she would have endorsed Cuomo leading to Zohran's loss.

Mamdani lends credibility to some of those 3rd party/non-voting/protest voters' strategy.

I think this causes some... feelings.

[–] Ebber@lemmings.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mamdani is not third part though, because he won the primary. So he's the candidate from one of the two big parties.

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[–] the_trash_man@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Not really. New York's mayoral election has ranked choice voting so it's a different situation. Also, Cuomo is the 3rd party candidate at this stage - he's running as an independant.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

If Cuomo voters snake the election from Mamdani I hope Cuomo has his rapey fingers crushed in a subway.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If Harris had won it is highly plausible she would have endorsed Cuomo leading to Zohran’s loss.

We would also not have immigrants in concentration camps. So you know, it's a trade off.

[–] Muyal@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The US has been putting migrants in camps since the Obama days. Democrats are just better at pretending they don't do it

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

This sentiment has never made sense because libertarians steal more votes from replublicans than greens do from dems.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (6 children)

The important thing is to be more pissed at the Democrats for not being good enough than you you are at the Republicans for being evil. There is nothing worse than a western liberal, not even the pro-trans-murder party

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[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I love how divisive this is without respect to gerrymandering.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ranked choice voting and money out of politics are much more important than this dualistic psychological warfare. Republicans lose votes to third parties, too. Don't play their game. Vote blue if you want, but also extend love to your "deplorable" neighbor. Our division is a much stronger force for control than who is signing oligarchical legislation.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

While that sentiment may be the most frustrating, even if every third party voted against Trump, he still would have won. If even 10% of those voters went to Trump, he would have even won the popular vote. Polling suggests that non voters were about evenly split, so a stronger turnout generically may have done nothing.

The result was mostly due to a very boring reason. Inflation was high so whoever in office gets the blame. Similarly Trump lost mainly because COVID sucked, and anyone would have lost (his response did suck, but we saw that there was no such thing as a sufficiently good response).

People like to imagine some big political cause for good or for ill moving the voters, but by and large it's mostly about how comfortable or uncomfortable they are in the moment to vote for or against the status quo of the moment. But those folks are "just voting" while a very loud minority talks up their "superior" choice to not vote for a lamestream candidate. They speak loudly, but they didn't have enough votes this time to make a difference. They did in 2000 (technically Gore did have the votes when the data was in, but third party would have made it a decisive Gore victory).

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

But how can I blame socialist for the failure of society where 50% decide to vote for a convict rapist

[–] febra@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Y'all are never making it out of the shit you're in if this is how you're thinking. Neither the republicans nor the democrats represent the interests of the working class. You're just pissed now that the fascism your country has been spreading across the world for decades both under the democrats and under the republicans is coming home to hatch now.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

People who focus on just one sole issue and ignore the full consequences and the reality of the say they do have deserve about as much democracy as MAGA. But don't worry, you no longer will have any say at all.

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

blaming that one guy is the mentallity that brought that country to its knees. good job, and have fun in the camps.

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