Come on y'all. Stop it. : luigimangione

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 268 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Wasnt really a Luigi style shooting from what little Wikipedia has to offer so far. Dude just killed a bunch of random people and then offed himself. Literally just a mass shooting.

He killed:

Didarul Islam, a 36-year-old off-duty police officer (ACAB)
Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner (...)
Julia Hyman, a recent college graduate working for Rudin (questionable)
Aland Etienne, a 46-year-old security guard (probably not a cop considering it wasnt specified like with the other one)

Definitely not a targeted assassination. Still better than doing it in a school or club tho.

[–] banner80@fedia.io 216 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Just to be clear and without taking sides: Wesley LePatner appears to have been the CEO of the real estate portfolio of rental units. Literally the person most responsible for Blackstone buying up US housing at an alarming rate.

https://www.businessinsider.com/blackstone-real-estate-executive-wesley-lepatner-killed-gunman-345-park-2025-7?op=1

LePatner, 43 years old, was the $1.2 trillion firm's global head of Core+ real estate and CEO of Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust, the company's juggernaut real estate fund for individual investors.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, wouldn't surprise me if the guy got evicted by them or something like that.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

He literally had the wrong floor. Complete coincidence that his random act of violence happened to kill someone doing something evil, no one should be praising this guy.

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Apparently, when the only justice in the world is accidental, people still praise the accident as a wonderful accident.

Whether you like it or not.

The scenario where nobody should be praising is the one where CEOs buy up tens of thousands of houses, and rig the prices so that hundreds of thousands of people are negatively affected by rent increases. Sometimes they end up on the street. Where they die.

That's the part that you're ignoring as you pretend to have a sense of morality.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A happy accident, yes?

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[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's not an accident. There's a high chance of randomly killing someone evil if you walk into any Park Ave office building.

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[–] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 weeks ago

The Lord works in mysterious ways.

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[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Wait there's a company called "Blackstone" as well as one called "Blackrock", and both buy up real estate?

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

Blackstone is private equity. Blackrock makes the funds normal people buy for their retirement accounts.

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Also a company called Vanguard. The 3 of them own almost everything

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 95 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Now that CEOs can die in mass shootings, maybe real prevention of mass shootings can happen.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 68 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Silly goose. They’ll just hire more private security.

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Private security needs to protect him all the time. The Mario Bros only need to succeed once.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry Mario, your CEO is in another castle

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, it wasn't exactly like Luigi but living afraid of being offed by some rando with mental health issues who doesn't even know who you are is a fear the working class knows all too well and the owning class indirectly created.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

nah they pretty directly created it.

virtually every mass shooting is blood on the hands of our ruling class. when they refuse to correct it, rather than being unable to, it becomes apparent what they value more - people or profits?

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

Literally just a mass shooting.

Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner (…)

Oh well, at least it took place in a place where the people doing actual damage to society are,instead of a kindergarden like usual.

Also, maybe it might make more people aware of what's happening these days.

[–] Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hard agree. He's no martyr like Luigi. Just another psycho destroying our society

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Eh.. society started it

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 132 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I have a feeling he didn't mean to kill the blackstone ceo, just a stroke of good luck

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago

At least something positive came out of this tragedy.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

God works in mysterious ways

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One of life’s happy little accidents

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 77 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is HORRIBLE! DOESNT he know that if you Want to Commit a MASS SHOOTING in the United States you MUST Target a SCHOOL and NOT places where Rich People wor"KKK"?

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So inconsiderate! That CEO had a bright future ahead of him.

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[–] prof@infosec.pub 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I was in NY 2 blocks away when this happened. This dude has no redeeming qualities and would have happily shot you for looking at him funny.

He wanted to kill people from the NFL but did no reconnaissance and ended up murdering 4 completely unrelated people.

His manifesto is also just complete madness.

Edit to add: If anything this is another reason why there should be more publicly available resources for combating mental health issues and tighter gun control. But we all know there will only be thoughts and prayers and no real change coming any time soon.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

His manifesto is also just complete madness.

I mean that's expected, he had CTE after all

[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah the important part is not that he couldn't put together a thesis, it's that there's a multi billion dollar industry that gives the hope of millions and stardom to young males as long as they sacrifice their brain health.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 61 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

He took the wrong elevator. He was looking for the NFL offices as he blamed them for his CTE. Only one person he shot worked for the NFL.

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) is a condition that may result from head injuries, especially in athletes of contact sports like boxing or football. The condition slowly damages parts of the brain and may cause trouble with memory, other thinking skills, behavior, personality, speech or balance.

So, when the NFL encourages an unsafe sport that damages the brains of their members to the point that they can no longer find the correct elevator to the floor of the NFL, that's not the NFL's fault? They're out there encouraging people to concuss themselves stupid every single day. "It's safe!". No, it isn't. It's dangerous, and nobody gives a shit about the player's brain damage.

I'm glad to see the players fighting back. Maybe it'll spark yet another discussion about football players and boxers not having enough protection for their sport.

"Not enough protection, we need better equipment"

"So, you want a higher salary, right? Because we want to see blood and injuries. If you don't want to do it, we'll find someone else willing to lobotomize themselves for a way out of crushing poverty. Why do people think the NFL is evil?"

[–] bestagon@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Not just encourage but actively suppress research into

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[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, the media is not suppressing some working class hero story here. It's just a man who lost his marbles.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean, this is still pretty Luigi. A man striking out an evil corporation violently. I wouldn't put the NFL's crimes at the same level as UHC's. But they still churn through and destroy people like the shooter. It's ultimately the same form of anti-corporate vigilantism.

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

When are cops and ceos gonna stop celebrating the killing of the working class?…. Just playing devils advocate here.

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The CEO killed people every week, just not with a firearm.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Keep defunding mental health and social welfare, see where it gets you. Feel bad for the recent college grad and the security guard. Not so bad for the cop and the CEO of the corrupt investment firm.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Therapy for a year through my insurance: 900 dollars out of pocket.

Glock 19 gen 5: 550 dollars out of pocket.

Hmmmmmm, I wonder why this country is so fucked up.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I neither praise nor blame him. I blame the NFL for not taking good care of him though. No-one deserved to die over that. Fuck capitalism.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

This headline can easily be part of an intended effort to associate the luigie situation with any shooting of a CEO or business leader. Reasons matter. Protecting luigie means enforcing strict conceptual differentiating between him and other acts of violence. We know there's a difference, we need to enforce that difference in every space the topic comes up. As soon as Luigie is successfully lumped in with random acts of violence, he loses the public sentiment that is his best protection.

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[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

bro stopped a mass murderer

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[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

~~He shot a Blackstone CEO, yet when I search for him the media reports on his football career as a potential reason?~~

~~What the hell? America is not in a position where the assassination of CEOs needs to be explained. The question is how some of them can still show their faces in public.~~

Edit: See comments below. I'm dumb and/or jumping to conclusions too quickly.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You’d be right if he only shot a Blackstrone CEO. But apparently he shot 4 random people, one of them turned out to be a Blackstone CEO. That’s different.

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[+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

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[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

I would only be impressed if somebody actually did something about the conditions that created the CEO in the first place.

Bullets are famously ineffective against these conditions.

You can shoot a capitalist, but you can't shoot capitalism.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can shoot a capitalist, but you can’t shoot capitalism.

Not with that attitude you can't.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You shoot enough capitalists tho...

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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Do we have to, though?

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Luigi Mangione