Falmer do just fine without sunlight
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And they taste terrible themselves I bet
Meanwhile, in Legacy of Kain:
Vampires: Uh, boss? You corrupted the pillars of Nosgoth - which is great and all - but now the sun kinda/sorta doesn't work anymore. It's always dusk.
Kain: So what you're saying is that we vampires can move around freely. All the time. Excellent.
Vampires: Won't that eventually kill all the humans? Yanno, with no food and all?
Kain: ::shrugs:: Fuck 'em.
Did they need to eat humans in this lore?
IIRC, there were human survivors and hold-outs, but not many. Consequently, the vampire's numbers were also rather small in turn. It was all a slow-moving apocalypse.
Really, it's only just good enough of a backdrop for some really solid gameplay, set-pieces, and great voice-acting (well, for Soul Reaver anyway).
Spoiler! I still haven't played through Skyrim.
A lesson in sorting out that backlog before buying any more games also Darth Vader is Luke's dad get wrecked
Sounds about as forward thinking as most politicians I know.
This is just a metaphor for capitalism. Capitalism will literally kill the earth and suck the population dry just so a few can enjoy their lives.
You give Bethesda slop too much credit
FR.
The only game of theirs that truly was allegorical and not simply cool for cool, edgy, or trying to squeeze in some hot topic buzz words and themes, was Morrowind.
And what it was allegorical to was basically a horned-up teenager's demented fantsies.
Friend did you play Skyrim?
I don't mean to be all "Bethesda slop good" but the story they're telling (outside the main quest) is pretty spot on regarding rampant racism and nationalism tearing apart a country already at the behest of a small cabal of criminals. Vampires living on a private island want to extinct the earth so they can hunt free for a couple years just spells it out even clearer.
bethesda haters usually are just repeating phrases from ragebait youtubers
Just going to point out that the sun in the elder scrolls universe isn't a ball of plasma and is infact a big ass hole in the fabric of reality from when Magnus pussies out of creation. So it is entirely possible that plants could grow without sunlight in the elder scrolls.
Also for any more specialized lore junkies are vampires hurt by the raw Magicka from the sun or is it more of a raw lumens thing?
Also also the Empire had a space program, do with that what you will.
also the Empire had a space program
Easily one of the best unintentional "easter eggs" I've seen in a video game.
No like legit they had a space program, pretty sure it's Kirkbride lore but I'm pretty sure it's still canon.
Who art thou who are so wise in the ways of the elder scrolls
Do you get to the Cloud District very often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don't.
The like 4 buildings 15 feet away? That's a district?
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It is definitely the Magicka harming them, or it could be pedantry behind the curse because they seem fine in brightly lit rooms, you just rarely see them in one.
Also it could just be Molag Bal being a dick, daedric curses tend to have symbolism behind them. For example if memory serves right the reason werebeasts transform at night is because Hircine is honoring Lorkhan/Shor/Shezar who's corpse is the moons, but not the necromancers moon that's manimarco the god of necromancy.
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New quest: uncover the mystery of the crimson nirnroot
I mean a billionaire would literally attempt this if you told him that he would be the number one billionaire if he blocks the sun out.
I'm sure there was a Simpsons episode on this.
Edit: Yep
Not just a random episode, too - it's one of the plot points in Who Shot Mr Burns
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Let's assume this is correct about surface plants needing the raw Magicka from the sun to live.
Blackreach is full of plants, many of which are edible, and receives no sunlight. Humanoids could just start farming the plants from Blackreach along with fungi. That should be enough to sustain a large enough population for Harkon and his court to feed on in their vampire paradise.
I'm surprised Harkon didn't try to take Blackreach for himself. They're immune to Falmer poison, they can use their full power without sunlight, they're smarter and have access to invisibility, illusions, and charms.
In return he could have a country sized cavern, with at least two points of contact to Skyrim one either end, all the dwemer tech to hoard and use with their ancient knowledge. He could subjugate the falmer to be blood livestock, they're already crafted to be good slaves by the dwemer.
He could slowly build up a vampire/thrall/dwemer machine army right under Skyrim then wage war overnight. Could even use dwemer machines by day to maintain territory until you complete this master prophecy you have.
Don't even need the invisibility and illusion underground, just get good at ventriliquism.
I mean, if you're going to force people into an underground cavern, why even have the extra step of blotting out the sun?
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I want to play a game one day where it has a character AI good enough to be able to point out something like that and have it affect the flow of that character's story.
"Oh hum.. you... make a good point. Ok, pivoting: let's block out the sun but only on Tuesdays and Thursdays!"
As an example of a human written story: You can avoid the final boss fight in fallout 1 by calling out a similar flaw in the master's plan. He will commit suicide.
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DnD
We've had that in 1997 with Fallout.
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Is it the light or the UV rays that kill them, because if it's just the UV rays, we have technology that can block them now.
We stopped hearing credible stories of vampires around the same time we invented sunscreen.
Coincidence?
It's neither, It's the gaze of the god auriel.
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If you can prove skyrim's plants and animals need sun to survive then his plan is stupid. Otherwise, its magic and theres no sound logic to anything so it wasnt worth mentioning in a fantasy setting.
The falmore adapted to live without sun, humans would do the same.
Also magic might be able to produce UV rays to allow mages and farmers to still grow crops.
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