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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 198 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Kind of like what happened to Bush after Trump came around.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Seriously. I was at the right age to be much more politically intense back then and absolutely despised Bush.

Now, I almost feel bad about it after witnessing the last 20 years of politics.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 65 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We can have room in our hearts to hate more than one monstrous US president.

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

Nah don’t, bush was a horrible monster.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, I still think the criticisms of Bush were valid, but I'm so much more cool-headed as a person now that the difference in my response feels incongruent. Political news doesn't take an emotional toll on me like it used to, even though I objectively disagree with modern politicians more.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (7 children)

That's called "The Memory Hole".

We take all the illegality and corruption and horrific violence and torture and wars and media manipulation/intimidation and petty dictator shit and stuff it down the Memory Hole. Then we get to pretend

NSFWThis shit

Wasn't such a big deal after all.

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That spoiler tag did NOT work what the fuck dude

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

It follows lemmy spoiler format. Your ui is not compliant

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

Yeah but at least it was a scandal. That asshole, and a bunch of others, went to jail, even if it wasn't long enough. If it happened today they'd either never be charged or pardoned and that asshole would be the Secretary of Defense.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

America has been the bad guys for close to a century at this point the difference maker is their marketing game was on point.

Now? They no longer with Saatchi and Saatchi lol

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[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 18 points 4 days ago

That's right! The war crimes go into... The memory hole!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago

Jesus Christ.

I very well remember seeing the censored version of that image... this is the first time I've seen it uncensored.

I've seen uncensored pics from the highway of death, other graphic shit that made it onto the early days of liveleak... but there ya go, memory hole in action.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was telling my Zillennial partner about Bush this morning. About the extraordinary renditions. About kidnapping and torturing a fellow Canadian citizen for no fucking reason. About prosecuting child soldiers and holding them with adult mercenaries for a decade or more. About sanctioned torture, unsanctioned mass abuses, and complete abandonment of due process. And "y'all" are shocked today to find you live in a fascist country. Like, how the fuck are you surprised.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

They’re not surprised. Lots of Americans wanted this. Stupid as fuck population.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 71 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jesse and James were always effective, they just suck at villainy. They are good at dressing up, making rube-goldberg devices, and many other things, they just aren't evil enough to elevate that potential. If they were, Giovanni would be sleeping with the magi-karp, and Ash would be eaten by their Arbok.

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

good at dressing up

Ah yes, I still remember questioning my sexuality over James when I watched pokemon as a teenager. Good times

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Was that with or without his massive tits?

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Haha they were crazy, totally forgot this episode existed

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[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What was the answer to the questioning?

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I found that I‘m attracted to rather feminine people, although gender/genitals don‘t really matter to me.

Idk how to label that if that‘s what you‘re asking

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[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (10 children)

that is a constant in Dragon Ball.

enemies get defeated, surpasseda and then they become entourage

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 3 days ago

It was hilarious watching Dragon Ball after growing up on Dragon Ball Z. When Yamcha shows up and is a threat I lost it.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The list of opponents Goku agrees need to be eliminated is much shorter than the list of ones he wants to fight again when they are stronger. Despite most of them after the start of DBZ being existential threats.

Though he goes back and forth on Frieza lol.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Frankly speaking Frieza has somewhat mellowed out, probably the end result of being killed and sent to hell a couple times. He went from let's genocide the filthy monkeys to let's torture the filthy monkeys, which is progress I guess.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if the anime will ever get there, but if you read the manga past the end of Super (which ends on the Tournament of Destruction saga last I checked, like the one with Jiren, and then the Brolly movie), there's more Frieza development. Btw I suggest reading even the parts at the start; it's more of a companion piece than the retelling of the exact same story on a different medium. There is overlap between them, of course, but also a bunch of not overlap. Like Zamasu is more fleshed out and his whole path makes more sense in the manga.

Anime has more fighting, manga has more story telling.

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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Piccolo noooooooooooooo!

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[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 79 points 4 days ago (20 children)

and then you have the venture bros, where the monarch starts off as goofy and ineffectual but becomes more menacing as the series goes on and the stakes get higher

[–] Rose_Thorne@lemmy.zip 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They did fucking stellar work with the character growth. I normally hate the "you need to give it a couple seasons" kind of thing, but Venture Bros did so well to have a moment where you feel the tone start to change, and somehow, the goofier start ends up working in the shows favor.

I will never look at a Homies the same way again.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

If anyone is a victim of "Villain Decay" in the Venture Bros its Brock Sampson. The Swedish Murder Machine is practically a teddy bear by the final arc.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 7 points 4 days ago

I didn't realise that "Venture Bros" was a TV series and thought you were talking about Silicon Valley tech bros and venture capitalists and was like "sounds about right".

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Reminds me of D&D in a high level party and you run into a couple giant spiders. Aww... how cute!

[–] WandowsVista@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

damn you, Kakarot!

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 days ago (9 children)

This same process is why u stop watching cop/detective dramas as soon as a protagonist gets kidnapped.

  1. This happens 100% of the time, usually 3 season in
  2. You know they’ve gone from procedural to full on drama at this point
  3. The quality always drops off a cliff here
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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sort of, except he was probably the smartest of the lot by cloning himself, and then one of them got smart enough to off all the other clones. By himself he was manageable. He had the luck or foresight to cause problems when other problems granted the opportunistic window.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That too, but also, he sort of downgraded the egoistic Goa'ulds seeking to be Gods to like.. somewhat grandiose villains who know they're villains and don't delude themselves about being gods. Also, he then joined with SG1 to fight the... the... ohmygod. I need to either lower the amount of Ambien I take or rewatch SG1. The baddies from the other galaxy. I won't google it I'm gonna let that fester until I remember it.

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[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

I heard that something like this happened in an old superman villain. It took one season to defeat him. But later they defeat two by throwing a table at them

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago

But not the Joker.

[–] logi@piefed.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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