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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 80 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Follow-up fix: get home assistant and recreate this yourself with a $15 device

https://esphome.io/projects/index.html

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I started making my own several years ago but got sidelined by health issues and haven't gone back to it. :(

My end goal is I have a lot of comic books. I want a voice assistant that can query a database and then turn on smart lights to show box locations.

I got the database done, I got the queries working, then had a heart attack and never got the voice input or smart light output working. :(

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn. I hope you're feeling better, my friend.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Working on it!

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can I replace AppleHome with this stuff?

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's fun and I recommend it, but I'm hesitant to say you can 'replace' your existing systems with it. You'll probably mostly be able do what you want to do, but we're still in the enthusiast stage and there's going to be annoyances and frustrations. Home assistant is also one of the easier things to setup as far as self hosting goes, but you're going to pick up some skills on the path to getting it working.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Trust me, there’s annoyances and frustrations aplenty with Apple

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Now I'm going to refuse to purchase one even harder!

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I honestly forgot people even buy these

[–] Jaded99@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I was saving up for one. Nvm lol

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Not only that, I wouldn't even use one if they paid me. How did they convince people to pay to be spied on and advertised to?

[–] db2@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck is Alexa+ 🤣🤣🤣

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

After AI became a thing, Amazon decided you needed to pay a subscribtion to use Alexa with an LLM instead of the basic keyword recognition model

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Sounds like another case of Amazon trying to out-Amazon itself

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Alexa already periodically makes "suggestions" that are annoying to disable if you misspeak.

Counting down until it starts demanding credit cards in order to function. Maybe as a form of "identity check", as that's been a popular excuse to collect payment information.

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Pretty much why we unplugged all of ours. I just need to set a timer, don't tell me extra shit!

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

To disable suggestions:

"Alexa, stop By The Way"

[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their users will accept this.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Not this one. I've been a Prime member for many years out of convenience (and because I live in the rurals and need to ship a lot of things to the house). Amazon completely fucked it up for themselves with regard to my subscription this past year or two, I'm done.

  • Removed the ability to download and sideload Kindle books
  • Ads in Prime Video
  • Followed by even more ads in Prime Video
  • Now this, and I don't even own an Alexa device

I'm done. Subscription is cancelled (has been for some time now, but unfortunately it was reupped annual). I've found alternative sources for several things I need to buy monthly/regularly that I previously would purchase on Amazon. Video was already trashed, but I barely used it. I've jailbroken my Kindles, converted all my books to EPUB, and installed KOReader on them. Wasn't a hard transition since I've had a Boox device as my main reader for some years now anyway. I've started buying my books from Kobo and other sources.

Looking into other services for online purchases and shipping. It'll be less convenient, and I'll still buy from Amazon in the event I absolutely have to, but I'd like to minimize that now.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How do you jailbreak your Kindle?

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Depends on the model and firmware, but for most, Winterbreak is the current method.

Do note if your Kindle is updated to version 5.18.x currently it's not possible to jailbreak. There is ongoing work on a new exploit though, and a new jailbreak method (or update to Winterbreak) is expected later this year.


Edit - actually, if you're on firmware 5.18.0 the jailbreak may work. 5.18.1 and above it definitely doesn't.

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[–] lustyargonian@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Like always, Black Mirror has an episode on this.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Black Mirror a manual at this point?

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 22 points 2 months ago

I’m pretty sure Amazon got this idea from Black Mirror’s latest season

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

*Amazon testing public backlash before shoving ads into your conversations with Alexa+

FTFY

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Got 8 Google Minis around the house, mostly ceiling mount. First ad that comes out that bitches mouth, I'm taking a 12-gauge to every motherfucking one of them, patch the roof later.

[–] MyRobotShitsBolts@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You sir, and I say this with no hyperbole; are a hero.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alexa has ads since the beginning and I can’t imagine that would change just because they are replacing the backend with AI. The first time Echo wasted my time trying to selling me something in my own home was also the last time. I don’t understand how anyone can be okay with that.

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[–] ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bought an Alexa echo long before I actually cared about privacy and I regret it a lot. It's been a pricey paper weight since then. I wish I could flash some kind of OS and use it as a sound bar or something. I can't even use the Bluetooth without signing in with amazon account, which requires a lot of data including phone number.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a shotgun? Makes a respectable flying target.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Duh. This is the AI wet dream. Ads won't have discrete patterns that can be filtered. The LLM will deliver content specific garbage as if it were a genuine answer to a query. It will just bias towards ads and deliver the ad Ina different personalized manner each time. For as much as everyone likes to bitch about AI. This may be the golden age. It probably just gets worse from here.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Musk on the other hand already experiments on adding ideology and use such bots (makes as regular users) on social media.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It won’t be long until the LLMs are trained with for ad-RAG

While each conversation happens a second model will scan it, send the contents to a vector search, return as embedding and a score, then give those outputs silently to the conversing model.

You do need to train/fine tune the model to not mention that it received the ad and subtly push it.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Actually, now that I think about it, you don’t even need to tell the model about the ad, you just weight some of the input tokens with the ad embedding and it naturally biases towards talking about that brand.

[–] CAWright@infosec.pub 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"brought to you by Carls Jr."

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Fuck you! I'm eating!!

[–] stellargmite@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I’m amazed it didn't already as someone who has never used or heard one being used. What’s the business model? Just the data harvesting for purpose of their other businesses?

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)
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[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I can't even stand when my Google assistant says more than three words to respond 😂 if I start hearing ads out of that thing I will get rid of it faster than anything I've ever done

[–] fan0m@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now introducing Alexa Luxe

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 8 points 2 months ago

As if I was ever stupid enough to use Alexa.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

And yet people will buy it, like they did with Nintendo switch 2! See you when it really happens.

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