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From age and ID restrictions on the Internet, to charging rappers with “terrorism,” the U.K. is demolishing the most basic civil liberties. If we let them, U.S. leaders may be close behind.

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[–] Mniot@programming.dev 163 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think the US will be fine as long as we don't repeatedly elect some kind of cabal of pedophile authoritarians.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 week ago (7 children)

You mean the Republican party? At this point I'm convinced their voter based would elect a serial killer so long as they said they were Republican.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago

I mean they re-elected Bush so.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You mean the Republican party?

Yes that's the joke lol

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[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Irony is truly lost on this platform

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[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 121 points 1 week ago (25 children)

Just what the fuck is this timeline? I was born in Russia and spent a good chunk of my life basically idolizing USA, UK, EU, other European countries, English-first countries, etc.

By the time I had the language and professional skills to try and migrate into a probably really good life, suddenly there's a rise of authoritarianism, loss of privacy, rollback to the political right and intolerance and hatred and whatever.

There's still a long way for these nations to go before things are as bad as here, but the differences still are dwindling at an alarming rate and I often find myself wondering if it's gonna be worth the effort if I want to eventually move to someplace that still respects privacy and freedom and is sensible about the Internet and digital technologies.

There's still a lot of perks from knowing English as well as I do, but at this point, I think I'd have to learn German or Swedish or some other northern EU language if I ever make up my mind.

And by the time I'm ready, these countries will roll out some bullshit, too, right?

And then there's Visa and MasterCard telling you what you can and can't purchase because some conservative cesspool wrote some emails - but gamers' emails are ignored...

It's all so demoralising. I miss looking forward to the future with hope and excitement for things.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It seems that our leaders idolize Russia back. 🤣

It's all about this,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

Apparently, Putin's regime is seen as an example for our leaders to follow.

P.S.: Without the direct threat that the communist USSR posed to Western elites, social-democracy faded away as the rich became more and more emboldened.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dear christ, is there anything Russia isn't responsible for? Apparently we're all puppets in the West, easily hypnotized by gifs generated on washing machine CPUs, and conveniently it's never our own making.

Please seek therapy. This "Russia Russia Russia" thing is McCarthyist hysteria on steroids.

You're idolizing Russia as much if you think they're somehow behind everything you don't understand or like.

What's the difference between your elaborate near-psychotic take and any other conspiracy theory?

Russia Russia Russia. Jesus motherfucking tapdancing Christ on a rubber crutch.

I dropped a plate this morning, Russiaaaaaaaaarrrrrgh!!!!

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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

what's happening is our current system right now is in the process of failing. it's dying, it didn't work and it can no longer sustain itself. Someone once said something along the lines of "When the current system fails, the next one will consist of whatever ideas are left"

So what ideas are left? the ideas of the far right, just like far right ideas are ALWAYS left when a system is about to die. So all these governments, all these wealthy individuals, all these people that have the most to gain are are going start backing the new up coming system. We're seeing it in real time.

But this has happened time and time again. We're a collectively dumb species and love watching repeats. it's always the same song and dance "well lets go this way, sure it didn't work out last time but I don't believe it'll happen to us THIS time".

So it's not so much "what the fuck is this timeline" but rather "well it's our generations turn for bullshit". And it always skips a generation. So the boomers didn't experience it, but their parents did, and now it's our turn. Hopefully our children or our Kids children will be smarter than boomers but...we as humans sure do love watching reruns.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 days ago

it is a simple as the rich thinking they no longer need plebs soon

it is no coincidence this is happening during the blown up of AI

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And then there’s Visa and MasterCard telling you what you can and can’t purchase because some conservative cesspool wrote some emails

They didn't just write emails, they actually picked up the phone and called them, non stop. They made it into a problem that couldn't be ignored. Gamers haven't done that, unfortunately.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As someone still in Russia, a bit of the same.

That is, I expected things to get worse, but not "avalanche of shit, cockroaches and rat bones" levels of worse.

Except the idolization part started receding much earlier, when I actually learned English well enough to understand that these are very intolerant societies. Say, where in Russia people disagreeing with you on some key matters would look at you like a fool or just decide to stop this conversation so that neither of you would offend the other, in English-speaking countries, it seems, there was simply no way to survive outside of some echo chamber and God forbid you find none to fit into. But that was like 10-15 years ago, now, of course, in Russia you can get jailed or strongly fined for words.

But I thought there's some deeper wisdom and in those harsher societies people are also somehow better capable to maintain their common freedom and dignity yadda-yadda. In fact that's not what I see.

As a bit of gloating - at least now the "why are you not all revolting against Putin" Western types can be answered with their own regrettable example instead of common sense and logic, these are fine, but an example is more efficient.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sweden teaches its kids English first now. You'll be fine.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago

Back in the '80s my British father would get as far as opening his mouth to use the Swedish he'd been practicing before the shopkeeper would preempt him in flawless English "How can I help you, sir?".

My inlaws actually don't speak any English and they're the first adult Swedes I've known that don't. Fortunately I speak Swedish fluently but it was comedically awkward for my wife's previous British boyfriends!

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[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 90 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"and america could be next!" they literally have domestic concentration camps in america there is no freedom there

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 86 points 1 week ago

The US is already well down the path with masked men kidnapping people on the street, holding them without any contact, defunding all sorts of media and billionaires suppressing all sorts off stuff in their media outlets.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Britain has never had free speech in the same way as the US, nor even of the press. Only in the last few decades, they've only had what's required by the ECHR.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well US free speech is telling lies and misleading millions of people on broadcast television.

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[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

That was lost a while ago, but it's nice more people are noticing that it's getting worse.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Remember VPNs definitely don’t help here, definitely don’t try to skirt any protections using a VPN, definitely remember to have your ID with you at the ready for any website to show to.

[–] DapperPenguin@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

If you could project into the future, you might see that VPNs are a dwindling non-solution to the problem. As this unsettling trend makes waves across all jurisdictions in the world, every VPN's IP will be subject to these new controls.* Eventually normies might need to understand technologies like Tor or I2P. Only problem is, if things get really bad they might ban the use of both outright. I'm not sure if I2P can be detected just as Tor, but I do know Tor users can be detected easily. Which is why if you're in a "censorship" country you need to use some sort of special subset of entry guards. I2P might be better because every node in the network is like a router, none are specifically entry, middle, or exit nodes. Only thing I could think of, maybe some form of deep packet inspection? If everybody runs an I2P router, then simply making requests to other nodes is not enough to determine it's an i2p communication?* It's just distributed computing, the way the internet was intended!

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hopefully this doesn't devolve into another USA vs UK shit flinging contest. Authoritarianism is on the rise everywhere, Trump and Starmer are both utilising state power to crack down on dissent and opposition. Those of us who are opposed to this shit are on the same side.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Uh, America had free speech? First I'm hearing about it.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I already can't say what I really think about politicians and CEOs without getting banned from comments all over the place, so didn't preach to me about censorship. I'm already chest deep in this shit.

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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol its been decades since the UK had free speech. I haven't forgotten the Nazis pug.

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[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

UK joined the US suicide pact after the queen. Sad.

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