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[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This post and several comments agreeing with this I feel are made with some level of ignorance on "Civil Disobedience".

Minimizing participation in the orphan-crushing machine but also debating politics on available platforms are not antithetical. Debating online is as important as doing the rest of the things that are perceived as "real" worthwhile pursuits. For instance: How can we pursue a cure for cancer if the political climate ensures scientists are scorned and distrusted? If evangelising about the "real" problems you care about is labelled as politics then can you really make progress without "political" action such as boycotting, protests and civil disobedience?

In the same vein, doing the small things in protest is the stepping stones to doing bigger things. It works the same way for any pursuit. Why shouldn't I practice discipline with my disdain for all the evil in small ways while also pushing for more?

Jeff Bezos makes billions of dollars, But He didn't get the $100 from me this year. Sure that sounds like a waste of time and energy for not much impact. But It didn't cause me any hardship. But believe me that $100 had either a compounding effect on my own wealth this year or to some people i gifted essential food to. That impact was felt a lot more by me or one of the people i gifted food or essentials to.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Cutting out the middle man does not involve technologically regressing.

Cutting out the middle man means stepping up and learning how the tech you use in your daily lives actually works. The only reason some tech bro can step in and ruin your life is if you let them keep you ignorant through convenience.

You want to cut out the middle man? Use, and support, open source. Fight to make everything that requires a server, be a server that you own in your own home (or is federated and in your local community). Use, and support, repairable technology... And actually repair your technology!

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[–] lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Too bad they crushed all the old cars

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 1 points 1 day ago

I mean, they were worthless.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No. The capitalists are the problem. Not the tech grunts.

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this supposed to be satire? How is print media owned by massive conglomerates, flip phones with no OSS firmware, handwritten letters delivered by a literal middleman, avoiding the middlemen??

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They’re not defining “middleman” in the traditional sense of an intermediary in an economic exchange. The first panel introduces a new definition of the term as a tech bro attempting to insinuate himself into the process of communicating with others. The remedies offered would indeed seem to preclude this type of middleman from interfering with the process.

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[–] Jaded99@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Please use windows XP and connect it to the internet and see what happens LOL

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I connected win 98 to the internet yesterday. It was fine, and probably safer than win 11 is now. No built in Spyware either ha!

(Don't use win 98 as your main os. I am partially joking and I only use it for running old programs and games.)

[–] Jaded99@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I've been hacked before #notfun

[–] Jaded99@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are programs Searching for online old windows OS. You will be hacked sooner or later better to run linux and vm old windows instead. Putting old windows on the internet is like sticking your pp into Bonnie Blue without a condom and being the last man in line too.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do use it within a vm on linux ha

[–] Jaded99@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah im not raw dogging it ha, unless I had my old hardware then I would

[–] Jaded99@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't risk it they infiltrate your router too, happened to me.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

If i was on old hardware I wouldn't be connected to the internet ha

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago (18 children)

We don't need to go back to handwritten mail, FOSS is the way to go.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 113 points 3 days ago (20 children)

We're techy enough nerds to know there's another way to be free of billionaire influence while still keeping some resemblance of modern communication: self-hosting.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When ceiling fans and AC units requires an account, yeah, something's wrong.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

The morality of a technology is determined by those in control of it, and look who's in control today.

Basically how i try to live my life! Buy physical media, setup a nas, unplug from the internet on most weekends (or limit it).

[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I see a few comments about self hosting stuff to escape the clutches of big tech, and while all that is effective to a high degree, it is beyond the abilities of the general populace.

Besides, I am also of the opinion that not everything has to be digital or smart.

I relish writing and receiving letters, it is tangible and indicates commitment. Fortunately, postal system isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

I like reading newspapers and it was sad to see all shops in my neighbourhood stop selling them during or after COVID. It was equally sad to see a lot of magazines not survive that period.

I miss my old TV that was simpler to use and started quicker than my newer smart TV. It does not matter if I disconnect the latter from the internet, it takes its time to load up. Besides, I don’t see any perceivable difference in picture quality from the distance I watch from.

Older laptops, though heavier, were more repairable. In certain aspects, they are better than modern ones: more tactile keyboard, nicer screen ratio (4:3). Of course, the newer laptops decimate the old ones when it comes to performance and screen quality but that is just technology progressing.

I could keep going on with a plethora of product categories. But across all my points, I wish some companies could continue offering such products, at least to a customer base that is willing to pay more just to support the existence of those products.

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[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

I am and probably always will be a tech enthusiast, but as time goes on I find myself more and more looking for old technology to avoid planned obsolescence, anti-repair bs, telemetry & tracking, lack of consideration for quality of life....

This is not how things were supposed to be. But this is how things will be if we don't do something about oligarchs and certain CEOs.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That’s exactly what is so nice about FOSS based systems. You can use technology but without the tech bros and the corporate enshittification.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 63 points 3 days ago (26 children)

That last panel hit me like a truck because... yeah, that's what people think happens when they do their little personal choice things to pretend they matter.

They really buy like a paper book once and go "ah, yes, Bezos is fuming right now" while he makes another billion.

We have lost all sense of how to influence society and all ability to gauge scale. For all the folksy traditionalism in this (which includes driving a gas guzzler from the 70s, apparently?) the Internet has created this entirely disproportionate sense of our footprint on the world and this strip is as much a result of the hyperconnected dystopia as everything it's complaining about.

In my experience this is extra bad for Americans who, frankly, didn't need that much of a push to go from their individualist, self-centered perception of society to this vision of sitting on a couch listening to a walkman as activism.

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[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] sundray@lemmus.org 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What a fantastic post, thank you for linking it!

Seriously though, I do think that it's interesting that this comic and that essay seem to take up opposite positions*, but in each case they attract more contrary comments than ones that agree. I suppose no matter what you post, any given person is more likely to comment on it if it pisses them off than if it confirms their beliefs. It's a good thing Lemmy doesn't reward engagement, or else we'd be up to our eyeballs in ragebait, eh?

*Unless you read the whole thing instead of bouncing off the first paragraph.

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[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

or, you know, you can have best of both worlds with open technologies. tech that you own and control.

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[–] nroth@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I think the issue people have with "tech" is that much of the software and devices sold take up too much space and do things people don't want them to do, without offering choice, configurability, and options for full control

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