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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 6 days ago

And the former secretary of state said that he's a fucking moron and his former lawyer/fixer says he's endlessly corrupt.

In equally surprising news, Everest is tall and the Mariana Trench is deep.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 18 points 6 days ago

Yeah, no shit...

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No inflation, but cut all trade ties making all goods more expensive and then cut interest rates.

I wonder if it’ll work

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Goods (and services) being more expensive IS inflation.

Doesn't matter if prices are inflating for the usual reasons, the thing that cost a dollar last year being $2.50 today is still inflation.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Powell getting replaced by a trump bootlicker is probably the best that could happen.

Sure, in the short term it would massively fuck up the economy, but that would bring trump's downfall all the quicker.

It's a shame about the TACO tariffs too. If they had all gone into effect as the dorito wanted, the economy would be so fucked up right now that you'd have the whole nation, except for the billionaires, out in the street with pitchforks.

It will come, it's just taking longer this way.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

TL;DR: Shit's fucked for the time being, and making it worse won't help.

Powell getting replaced by a trump bootlicker is probably the best that could happen.

Absolutely not

Sure, in the short term it would massively fuck up the economy

Which will inevitably lead to misery and the deaths of thousands of people. People who can't afford to stay alive die.

but that would bring trump's downfall all the quicker.

Nope. That's not how it works anymore. Like other tyrants such as Putin, Netanyahu, and Orban, whether Trump stays in power until his death is not a matter of how popular he is. It's a matter of someone stopping him when he suspends or rigs elections, starting as early as next year's midterms.

On the contrary, poverty and desperation is an ADVANTAGE for a fascist leader since that makes them look to a "strong man" to save them.

The fact that he's making everything worse doesn't register with his cult, but the fact that more clearheaded people points it out only strengthens their "us versus them" resolve.

The only peaceful way left to topple him would be to replace the entire Dem leadership with uncorrupted, talented, and brave people who care more about the outcomes for regular people than ancient rules, procedure, and rich donors.

Of course, the only way to do THAT is through primaries that said leadership control and guard with MUCH more ferocity than the fate of the nation and indeed the world.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

will inevitably lead misery and the deaths of thousands of people. People who can't afford to stay alive die.

You seem to be under the misconception that this is the future, or even that it is reversible.

It is not. The only way the current US political scenario will change, peacefully, is as a consequence of the power struggle between the oligarchs and the would-be dictator.

Then there's the non-peaceful options, which are the only ones that effectively bring back power to the majority. The issue is that people will gradually adapt to anything, so the only way to prevent the long-term crawl back to the middle ages is for things to get so bad, so quickly, that people actually get up and do something about it.

In any case, let me know if a few years who was right. If either of us live to see it.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I KNOW that people are already dying, I'm not denying that.

Letting things get even worse than they already are so that many MORE people die in the hope that it's going to suddenly make the Mango Mussolini unpopular with his own cult of people who think he can do no wrong, though, is like fighting fire with kindling.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fighting a raging forest fire with kindling is a viable strategy - if successful, it will lead to the fire starving itself out. Sure it's risky, but it will put it out for good, while throwing water, even assuming it does anything at all, would still be one stiff breeze away from re-flashing.

But let me be more specific with what I mean: last April, we were very close to one of these breaking points that would have killed the Trump presidency. If you recall, amid the Chinese tariff escalation, the stock market got very panicky and turned to treasury bonds, as it usually does when things get a bit crazy, but this time it didn't work. It raised alarm bells everywhere, and wise enough people (and I suspect Jerome Powell played no small role in this) forced the White House to do a 180 and stop their bullshit.

I wonder what would have happened if the tariffs went ahead, but I'm 99% sure that Trump wouldn't be president right now.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

would have killed the Trump presidency.

Nope. The cult's feelings don't care about the fact and, even as the markets were panicking, none of them were actually changing their minds about their "Messiah"

I'm 99% sure that Trump wouldn't be president right now.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You're missing half the plot here, yet I'm the summer child. Newsflash: the day and age when people elected the American president is long gone.

The cult is irrelevant, they're not even cattle - they're yeast: when they're fed with oxygen they leaven dough, when they're starved of air they produce alcohol. It's the moguls who own their feeds who control their output, not trump. He tried to grab a hold over them, with truth social, newsmax, etc but didn't get anywhere.

Case in point, the constant Epstein talking points. Why do you think this has come up now? Was there any progress in the investigations? No. Was a smoking gun found anywhere? No.

But do you know what is actually relevant? The "big beautiful bill" - this has the big pocket people very, very concerned. Musk is the higher profile example, and I'm sure many others have been reaching out to Trump "under the table" to change it, but since he's being headstrong, they're giving him a taste of what to expect if he doesn't bow down - get dragged into jail, kicking and screaming, and the very rednecks who right now would gag on his orange shriveled balls would be the first to shove a broom handle up his ass.

With sufficiently bad economic policies, the powers that be will let the pitchforks rise. Our best bet is that we can catch them too in the chaos.

[–] Rumbelows@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, it clearly can’t be Trump’s fault, can it?

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

When is it ever?

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

That’s what he does. It’s everyone’s fault but his always.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No really? Clutches pearls.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Don't like the statistics? Fire the statistician.

Problem solved.