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Seth MacFarlane's The Orville

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The Orville is a satirical science fiction drama created by Seth MacFarlane and modeled after classic episodic Star Trek with a modern flair.

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The Orville season 2, episode 3 "Home"

Written by Cherry Chevapravatdumrong, directed by Jon Cassar.

Dr. Finn tends to Alara after she surprisingly broke a bone arm-wrestling Isaac. This leads her to realize the amount of time Alara has spent away from her home planet of Xelaya has caused her entire body to atrophy. The only meaningful solution is for Alara to temporarily return home and rebuild her strength over time. On Xelaya, Alara is immediately overwhelmed by the native gravity and also has to confront her parents (Robert Picardo & Molly Hagan) who never really supported her choice to serve in the Union. On the Orville, Alara's absence is felt as the crew deals with an interim Security Chief (Patrick Warburton) and works to devise a way for Alara to return.

Originally released: 10 January 2019

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[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago

Without wanting to get into too much behind-the scenes drama, there may or may not have been some interpersonal stuff behind this episode. Halston Sage (Lt. Alara Kitan) and Seth MacFarlane (Capt. Mercer) were at one point in a romantic relationship, and then they weren't any more, and then Alara left the series. Nobody has outwardly connected those things in a causative sense; in public, the explanation was simply that this was the right story for the show. I find that a little hard to justify, though, and promptly ...

Future episode spoilers... replacing her with a new Xelayan ...

... smacks of allowing rewrites of future scripts which expected her to be available.

That said, this episode itself is very strong (even if Alara isn't!); it doesn't feel like a rush job in any way. Alara's family (and old friend Robert Picardo again) initially seem a bit one-note with their "Military bad" attitudes, but are revealed to have more depth as we spend more time with them, in part through their almost complete helplessness when confronted with a stressful situation. It's a shame it took this to get them to find respect for Alara, but that's families for you.

Something I frankly never noticed before was that Halston Sage has no Xelayan prosthetics in the fantasy sequence where she rides an Eevek (Xelayan horse thing) on the beach, as seen in the thumbnail of this post. This was included in the script, confirming that it's not a production mistake. Alara picturing herself as happily human gives her some additional depth. She's an outsider in both Xelayan and human society, so this represents one of the paths she could take to finding a place.

It's a fantastic farewell to a character who I wish we got more time with, an arc cut short by ... something. The only problem I have with the episode--besides it including Alara's exit-- is a minor one: the grieving-cum-vengeful parents appear comically villainous (e.g. when threatening to start lopping off Solana's fingers: "Which one, sweetie?"). I think they could have been given a slightly less scene-chewing evil that didn't take so much relish in violence. There's no room left to sympathize with them, because they're just awful. Maybe that's to soften our feelings about the Kitans. They could be worse!

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This show was not even a year and a half old when it made the departure of a series regular genuinely hurt. Taking to school a certain well-known space opera that tries and fails to do the same thing literally months later, a franchise that The Orville was suppose to be a parody of.

It still blows me away how much ground gets covered in a single episode. Home expertly uses every second to steadily push a multi-arc story forward without feeling busy or rushed. The crew is keeping busy during down time, then Alara has to face a serious medical issue, then the Orville drops her off on another planet, then she has to navigate a homecoming with a distant family, then a mystery appears alongside a threat, then Alara has to take stock and decide which life is more important to her. Again, every scene gets to breathe as it needs to. It feels like an entire movie condensed into a hour of network television.

Probably why there's almost no B-plot to speak of. Just a smooth-talking elephant man slamming some good home cooking while getting work done.

The goodbye really hurts. It's really touching, everyone embracing Alara in their own way. The gift to Captain Mercer is such a sucker punch. Not only is it a genuinely good throwback to the pilot episode, it clearly shows how far The Orville had come in such a short time.

(Behind the scenes, Halston Sage's exit is not so pleasant. A classic, and completely avoidable, case of what happens when you date the boss. Echoing Nichelle Nicolas's fling with Gene Roddenberry, which almost made her leave Star Trek. Sage and MacFarlane broke things off for whatever reason and it was too much for her to continue being a part of the show. Not like MacFarlane was going to be the one to leave.)

Spoiler for seasons 2 & 3 of The OrvilleSadly, we only get to see her two more times in the series. (At least, so far.)

And I can't press Post without saying John Billingsly stole the entire second half of this episode. The mid-sentence tone shift when he tells Picardo to put his hand in a boiling pot still gives me chills. No one ever could have expected to see TWO Trek doctors face off in an episode of a Fox SciFi, but boy was it worth the cost to hire them both.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

This show was not even a year and a half old when it made the departure of a series regular genuinely hurt. Taking to school a certain well-known space opera that tries and fails to do the same thing literally months later, a franchise that The Orville was suppose to be a parody of.

It also put me in mind of the way a certain character fairly unceremoniously left early TNG. That was still season 1, but episode 23, so technically further into the show than we are here if you're counting in minutes. And it was much worse. The Orville absolutely gave a masterclass here.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't particularly like this scene, because of the sloppy continuity.

PREVIEW_HEREI guess this could be spoiler?

They forgot the prosthetics, in that scene - and there's no reason that her self-image in this dream state would be Earthling.

I just thought it was a sloppy shoot in what was, at the time, a better Star Trek than any of the contemporary, official, Star Treks.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh funny. I just mentioned this in my comment as well. The lack of prosthetics in that scene were apparently scripted. It is supposed to represent Alara picturing herself as a human.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's what I read somewhere. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Makes about as much sense as Ed having fantasy dreams where he's a Moclan, or a Gelatin.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not at all a good comparison. Ed is happy and confident in who he is. Alara has always felt like an outsider because of her interest in a military career; you even saw how her parents almost treated her like someone with a disability who like, refused to get something fixed or something like that. And meanwhile the mostly human crew has welcomed her with open arms and treated her like a full equal even with inflated respect. Why wouldn’t she fantasize about how her life might be if she had been human.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know. That's like suggesting black people have fantasy dreams where they're white. Maybe it happens? It just stretches my suspension of disbelief. Feels like a retcon to make up for a miss, like not being able to coordinate makeup and location schedules.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well several people have stated it was in the script, so that’s planned ahead not retcon. It’s surprising to me as well, but I have no trouble believing the reasoning.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Even more confusing to viewers was that scene in the trailer has NO CG at all. It's a girl riding a horse on a beach. This is probably what fueled the belief that Human Alara was a mistake or due to some production constraint.

Here's the ComicCon trailer, it's at 2:19:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWBRMaKsGN4

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

!The once so overused catchphrase of Ed finally pays off, now he has a jar of pickles to open for himself.!<