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[–] jouhija@sopuli.xyz 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

All fines should be scaled with income, like Finnish speeding tickets. A Finnish businessman was fined 120 000€ for driving 80kmh in a 50kmh zone.

This of course wasn't his first offence, having been fined many tens of thousands of euros beforehand. Makes me wonder though, why not just take his license away...

Oh I know, because he's rich enough to pay off the judges

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh I know, because he’s rich enough to pay off the judges

You really can't pay off judges here. But if you can show that taking your license away would make things considerable difficult for you (like losing income) they'll let you keep it on certain cases.

[–] jouhija@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You really believe that our judges and the rest of the justice system are incorruptible? Gee, I guess people like Vornanen have already been sentenced. Or did everyone just forget that a cop got blackout drunk, harassed a teenager and then shot a gun in the middle of Helsinki over a year ago? A pretty clear open and shut case which should've led to him being fired from the force but nope, he's still even in politics and will be allowed to have the politicians pension.

You really got to be a bootlicker to believe that our justice system isn't available for purchase

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You really got to be a bootlicker to believe that our justice system isn’t available for purchase

It's not in a sense that's globally understood. Your Joe Average can't just bribe their way out of anything. Political and other social cirles and generic cronyism is another matter, but even there currency is pretty often something else than money.

[–] jouhija@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

That's my point: joe average can't do it, but rich people and politicians? They're doing shady as fuck deals around private hospitals and nothing's being done about it. They are allowed to do what they want as long as they don't get caught by the public, and even then they only get a slap on the wrist. Remember the cocaine findings in Arkadianmäki? Drugs for the rich and powerful but a weed smoker will be thrown to jail.

Oh and don't forget how the police are abusing their power to illegally spy on environmentalists. Who would benefit from stopping Elokapina, if not the rich and far-right aligned? You can bet nothing will happen to the officers in question

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A lot of people have a lead foot, at least where I live you have to do worse to get your licence pulled.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Australia we have points 12 i believe. Each offence is worth a fine and so many points.

When you're out of points you can't drive anymore

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We have that too. Huh, looks like you actually do get a small number for just speeding. Never mind.

A lot of the stuff that gets you big points should probably get you banned or jailed immediately, but we've built our whole society around cars so they really don't like doing that.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah 45kma over the limit is the harshest with 1000 dollar fine and 6 points, however there is a law driving at a dangerous speed which will land you in court with your car impounded and probably lose license straight away.

For instance we used to have open speed limits where I live in the Northern Territory so going 200kms wasn't really a worry on the remote highways where nothing is around.

Then the southerners started moving up and brought our speed limits to 130, but if your caught doing 175kms in the Middle of now where "safely" you get the fine.

However if you're doing 100kms in a school zone (40kms an hour) straight to jail

[–] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago

I'm guessing the Germans fined them in US dollars because he was driving in mph. I'm sure they would have been OK doing 320 kph.

[–] brathoven@feddit.org 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We Germans should do it like Denmark and confiscate his car and then take away the drivers license for good.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

At over double the speed limit this would usually be classed as dangerous driving (a more serious offence than speeding) and result in instant disqualification in the UK, too. Though you wouldn't be banned for good.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

confiscate his car and then take away the drivers license for good

You'd be surprised how many just drive around in their partner's car without license, often drunk and/or stoned. They mainly get caught because they cause accidents they can't easily walk away from.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The car would still be taken away.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 points 21 hours ago

They don't care and just look for another sucker to give them a car. Psychopath gonna psychopath.

[–] bstix 4 points 2 days ago

That's the reason for taking the car. No fucks are given in regards to who owns the vehicle. If you get caught driving insanely in your friends car, it's your own problem to explain to your friend why he doesn't have a car anymore.

The only time I've heard of them returning the vehicle to the actual owner was when they confiscated a bus, which was needed for public transport.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was told the autobahn had no speed limit. I was lied to my entire life and it hurts.

[–] finix_the_psyker@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 days ago

Nope, only certain sections are without a speed limit.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

kph? Even if you don't work with SI units, just don't invent wrong ones. If lost, ask someone who knows. The correct abbreviation for "kilometers per hour" is km/h

[–] remon@ani.social 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

While km/h is the official SI symbol, kph isn't just "made up". It's a quite widely used unofficial abbreviation.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago

Used commonly in NZ too, which is a metric country.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Probably in non-SI countries...

[–] xxce2AAb -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think my teachers would have been impressed with me in school if I claimed to be using the 'unofficial spelling of words' or citing 'unofficial facts'. You either have one standard... Or none at all.

[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well, yeah. School is supposed to teach you how to do things properly. But people tend to forget a lot of that after leaving school and just do what they want.

[–] xxce2AAb 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And they are of course at liberty to do so, just as people who didn't forget their lessons are equally free to call them out for it. If I insist on using the spelling 'leburthy', I don't get to complain if somebody else makes me feel like an uneducated fool in short order.

Which - given that this is the Internet - will undoubtedly happen very swiftly indeed.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

You used single quotes when double quotes was the correct usage. You also put your comma outside of the quotation mark instead of inside.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

It's a good thing we aren't in school where they (are supposed to) teach you the exactly correct thing.

They also teach you in school that you don't capitalize the first letter after an ellipsis, but you just did. It's almost like, and I'm just spitballing here, it's OK and generally acceptable in unofficial writing to make minor mistakes that are common enough.

They also teach you in school that you only use single quotes if your quote is inside of another quote. So why did you use single quotes twice in your unquoted sentence?

As for your statement that you either have one standard or none at all. Have you heard of the Oxford Comma? Have you read the rules for whether you put an apostrophe s after a singular possessive noun that ends in s? Even within a single country we can't agree on common rules for a language.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

You're absolutely right

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

And the correct abbreviation of miles per hour is mi/h, but nearly everyone writes mph. Speedometers use mph and km/h, but I've seen kph a bunch.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago