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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

Perhaps there's something fundamentally unsound about claiming a 2500-year-old collection of shepherds' fairy tales confers ownership over land that someone else owns?

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 61 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Bibi is Hitler, anyone who had a role in supporting him is a Nazi. There, problem identified. Now prosecute in international court.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 20 points 6 days ago (21 children)

Good start, but then you have to ask: Where is the opposition to the genocide? Where are the people horrified by the genocide being committed by their compatriots and taking to the streets? Where are the opposition politicians attacking Bibi for committing genocide?

This goes way beyond Netanyahu's supporters; even people who oppose him for corruption and anti-democratic behavior tend to support him, or at least toe the line, when it comes to the war.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I've tried reasoning with my Nazi-ass/Diet Nazi family, but they seem to earnestly believe that they're not Nazis. I try to provide emotional support to my cousin in the IDF, who has spent his entire career trying to protect Palestinians as best as he can, but we haven't heard from him for nearly a year now. I hope he's just in jail again for defying orders...

Other than that, I'm still freaking out too much about the Nazis gaining power here at home. There's too many goddamn Nazis these days...

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Now prosecute in international court.

Already underway but it seems in these times international agreements are seen as decorative and/or leftist tubthumping.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 5 days ago

Always have been.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Finally, the global political community starts to push back against Israel's genocidal expansionism. A little.

The sheer fact that it took them almost 2 years and massive protests to find some of their humanity again is in itself quite depressing, but hey, it's better than nothing.

But right now it feels that at best we'll be returning to the status quo as it was before Trump 1.0, before Netanyahu went full mask off.

As it was for decades:

Mild criticism of Israel to keep them in check and suitable for polite society, but never enough to actually solve the Palestine problem once and for all, never enough to actually stop Israel from expanding more-or-less aggressively. Tacit agreement by only stepping in when it becomes too ... disgusting?

I truly hope there's an actual solution somewhere on the horizon. This has been going on since 1948, it's time wouldn't you think.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

2 years? I think you mean 60.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

I don't think you understood my comment, or stopped reading too early.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Religious extremists shouldn't be in charge of anything

[–] Baked86@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

jizzrali genocidal scum

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The whole region is so engrained with violence, oppression and exploitation. All of it stems from religious control.

The only way to rehabilitate the region is to remove religious control and establish secular institutions.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 19 points 5 days ago (15 children)

All of it stems from colonialism and Western meddling you mean. Who do you think gave Palestine to the Zionists?

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (12 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 5 days ago (12 children)

That'd imply that secular countries in the region are better, which is clearly not the case. Baathist Iraq and Syria were explicitly secular, and as is Egypt which also happens to be a police state under a military dictatorship. Israel also managed to keep religious fanatics outside of government for most of its history, yet the horrors of Zionism progressed unimpeded (see: the Nakba). "Religion bad" as a framework for understanding the current state of the Middle East, aside from falling apart when you think about it for five seconds, is deeply colonial thinking. It seeks to push the blame for the terrible events that have plagued the region on religion or culture or a non-existent history of instability rather than active choices by global hegemons seeking to further their imperialist agendas.

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