Not sure what the point is here exactly. Every single country that has ever had a revolution had to deal with these things.

The other thing to consider, and maybe this is already addressed, is that there's a stunningly large proportion of the population that is not only okay with this, they want it. And it's not a situation where those people who approve or simply don't care are segregated out by regions, they're literally living next doors and up stairs. They're cousins and sisters and fathers and bosses and coworkers and so on. This is not some super easy "why doesn't the larger of the two simply eat the other?" kind of situation, and no matter how hard anybody wants to try and reduce it down to that, sorry, that's just now how things work.

To get that kind of momentum going against a literal police state would be difficult to say the least. Such a movement would also likely be smothered in it's crib by the surveillance state we built ostensibly to keep us safe from the terrorist boogeyman that America created.

Even if the revolutionaries win, there's no guarantee that the government that comes as a result would be better in any way. Great warriors rarely make great rulers.

If the US collapses before I die. I can die happy.

This is an evil country. It makes war on the world. It threatens the world via control of the reserve currency. To say nothing of the abuses it visits on its own citizens.

Total collapse. Balkanization. Don't care how. No expectation of surviving the fall. But as long as it falls I can die happy knowing that life on this planet has a brighter future than it did with the US at the till.

Most of the people here live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford a $500 emergency.

So the risk of even just getting arrested, and held in custody for a week, would be enough to ruin one's life.

That puts a damper on protesting, until you or your family are directly impacted. It also inhibits willingness to strike.

And it also explains why so many protesters are of retirement age -- they don't have a job to lose if they miss work unexpectedly for a few days.

In a lot of ways, we were already conquered.

Violent revolutions almost always result in bad governments for exactly this reason, i.e. it's only fringe idealists that get it together enough to lead one, and such people are usually terrible at doing actual grown-up governing.

It's why it's so infuriating to see right-wingers claim that basic social safety nets and tackling inequality are Communism, because it's like, if you want Communism then pushing half the population towards that level of desperation is exactly how you end up with it.

We are in the middle of a revolution, just not one of, for, or by the people.

And before all, who is willing to intentionally miss (perhaps forever) the remaining episodes of their favorite show to make that all happen?

Kurzeghast(sp) has a great little video that ends with essentially "there is literally nothing stopping us from having a better healthy post scarcity society but ourselves. There is no reason for it except for the mindset that perpetuates that we can't"

Not to mention, "how is someone supposed to organize any of this without getting disappeared by the FBI or CIA."

without a rallying force, its just sparkling crazed gunman

Americans don't know how to cooperate, they're raised with a "me first" mentality. They can't fathom the thought of laying down their lives for their countrymen, so unless you propose to them a revolution where every one of them gets treated as the main character and everybody else as the supporting cast, they won't lift a finger.

Listen, at least tear it down for the rest of the world, what you do after that is up to you, but for the love of god just stop the existence of the usa

They always talk how they need guns to prevent tyranny and they are in a tyranny for over 6 months now and nothing...

My biggest fear is what emerges after.

In many successful revolutions, an army was a part of uprising. Serving in the army does not make you any less of a voter.

A general strike for 2 weeks. Will bring the economy to near destruction and force change

I'm rapidly approaching the point where I don't care if anyone has a plan or not.

And the majority of people are libs and conservatives that think ”capitalism isn’t perfect, but it’s the best we got.”

I'm not sure the answer to this question but I'll be ready with my de-ICE-ing agent.

People revolt when they can't take any more. They don't need a plan for what comes next, they just need a critical mass of desperation and anger. Too many people still feel that they have more left to lose.

"How would they deal with the army?" Probaby even better then other folks in shitty technicals like Afghanistan and Vietnam did to be honest. They aren't going to nuke American rebels because then they'd win a big radioactive pile of shit. Think they'd shoot missiles in NYC? Fat fucking chance. Even tanks rolling down Main street is gonna set off alarms.