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It is time to move to darknets like: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veilid

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 9 points 14 hours ago

Complacency has led us to this dystopia. Start Pirating & torrenting. Support Alternative platforms Fund dark-web tech

[–] Baked86@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is there any way to fight chat control in the EU?

[–] Romulon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

If you go to chatcontrol.eu you will find more info about chat control and how to fight against it.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

Guess China was just ahead of the curve.

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just read some story about a Digital ID being proposed called the Britcard which everyone has to carry all the time sounds very Black Mirror and concerning.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

FWIW, Denmark has had this digital infrastructure in the last 10 years and it’s been the foundation of a huge transformation in terms of how people interact with the government services.

It’s also extremely privacy preserving and while Denmark is actually moving forward with an age proving infrastructure like Britain, it’s designed with zero knowledge proofs so literally no-one knows where you have proved your age.

I don’t have a problem with the infrastructure. I have a problem with how Britain designs and uses the infrastructure.

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 14 hours ago

FWIW, Denmark has had this digital infrastructure in the last 10 years and it’s been the foundation of a huge transformation in terms of how people interact with the government services.

I don't think anyone has a problem with an ID you need to interact with government services. They know your identity anyway, and for obvious security reasons it's necessary that they properly verify that you are who you claim you are.

What people have a problem with, is needing to provide an ID to simply access whole categories of content across the wide internet that are not related to your identity in any way.

[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 6 points 17 hours ago

A digital ID, by itself, isn't much of an issue and can be very convenient for the user as well. Even better, it can be setup in a more privacy conserving way. For instance, when you have to provide your ID today, you often have to give companies a copy of your ID, which isn't really favorable to the owner of that ID. With digital ID, it's easier to give/revoke access to your ID or mask certain information the other party doesn't need to know. Most ID scans are mainly done to verify the person has a legitimate ID anyways and presented it, making this digital can be an improvement.

Where it does get black mirror-ey is when you have to use that digital identity to basically log in to the internet and all your internet activity is logged to your ID. The shit the government can pull with such information is mindbogglingly bad.

[–] mysticmartz@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We need to build a decentralised internet quickly using I2P or something similar and scale and decentralise quickly. VPN’s will be the first to go then TOR after they attempt to control the exit nodes .

We need to show the governments that we are allowed to use encryption and Wikipedia and not be treated as criminals for wanting privacy .

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

I've been running i2p for years. It works well and if there was demand it would be fairly trivial to make Lemmy compatible.

So what did you change about your behavior after writing this message?

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Something similar when using an operating system from Google and Apple, known for their attachment to privacy and noble behavior?

In any case, you can't have a mesh with ends reachable at all times or even addressed. Delay-tolerant applications are sort of better. With nodes synchronizing when in contact. Except for, say, threaded discussions to make sense, this would almost require some sort of dependency management, to synchronize objects by priority.

But honestly all of today's computing seems authoritarian and imperial. Which leads to the way it shapes the world. Richard Stallman is known for being worried about this (not many other people), but GNU + Hurd is honestly still in the same paradigm.

I wonder if it's possible to devise something like BTRON, except with program objects being similar to Java assemblies, but at the same time more like Common Lisp. For the commonly used software to be generally easily hackable\changeable. BTRON in its concept is nicer than Unix, it's a consistent idea for modernity of computing, one can say. It seems even nicer than Plan 9. Unfortunately I don't know Japanese to play with it.

Something that could be used on weak and cheap enough hardware to have some separate niche of personal\PDA computing based on it. Like Briar, but.

Things like CJDNS and Yggdrasil surely look nice, but those just change one layer. For a real totalitarian world they won't help. It's not even a matter of technology, it's a matter of links' capability when you can't use the Internet because, ahem, you'll be detected and police will come knocking.

[–] mysticmartz@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps a meshtastic delivered list of tor bridges or a wireless p2p internet . Digital dead drops

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 17 hours ago

Well, in my head "like Briar" is the best thing possible for architecture. Except Briar only synchronizes joined groups.

Perhaps even with some kind of, yes, a digital dead drop, that would synchronize (purging stuff old or not in demand) everything announced by devices passing nearby. Over some low-range radio, like BT.

Asynchronous communication. Because having a real-time connection with any mesh is hard.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I cant even think of any legit reason to do this. To protect children? The government does not care about children. Its why so many suffer in poverty. Watching tits online is the least of their problems.

The only reasons i can think of is control. Forcing people to give up more information about themselves. Because knowledge is power.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

The reason is that we all live in capitalist dictatorships masquerading as "democracy", and are rapidly approaching a time when climate change, wealth inequality, and automation will see widespread revolt of the proles, so the ruling class is tightening its grip, and going all in on fascism.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 37 points 2 days ago

If a government says they’re doing something “for the children” or “to fight terrorism”, it’s neither of those things - it’s for control. Those are just the got-to reasons they use to push them through because they can push the narrative that anyone against it supports terrorism/child abuse.

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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (6 children)

the brits really need to learn from the french how to protest. it's been nearly a month and i haven't heard of even a measly car being set on fire, just one petition that got a reply akin to "lol, nah". the french would've set a car on fire for less is all i'm saying

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

the brits really need to learn from the french how to protest

Where were all the protests to this: https://techinformed.com/france-enforces-age-verification-law-adult-sites/ ?

This is what you get at the moment when you access pornhub from a French IP:

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There has been a petition. And it has received the aforementioned "lol no" response. The thing is though after the French set the capital on fire the age of retirement still went up, nothing changed.

Anyway, all we have to do is use a VPN to get around it and wait for the inevitable data leak, then the whole thing will collapse under the weight of its own stupidity.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s cute you think VPNs will survive this.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is all theatre. They know they have no legitimate reason to ban VPNs. Their justification for all of this is protect the children if they start banning VPNs they're going to start getting asked some incredibly awkward questions about how that's going to work.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yup they just want more control, they know they can't have total control. So why ban VPNs, only a fraction of people uses them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Most of the people who use VPNs use them for work as well. It would be an impossible task to craft a law in such a way that didn't ban VPNs for business use, but did for private use, other than to just come out and say that.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

and that this thing will collapse

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (6 children)

With regards to this most people are just ignoring the law. VPN use has gone through the roof.

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Scotland might finally leave the UK because of this. It has been close before, but this must do it by now.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

I doubt enough people care

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

England isn't the problem, it's London that's the problem.

London needs to become its own independent city state and then they can do what the hell they want with it and then we'll be governed by someone from Leeds or Manchester or someplace like that, by someone who actually has a grip

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