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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

it amazes me how there seem to be two takes to the world now:

it's fine, pfft, don't overreact. ignore it, it'll be fine

or

what the actual fuck is that even, we all need to stop and think about what the fuck we're doing to the models/applications/machines and to the people using them, and what the costs are going to be in making the attempt,for what goal?

and no, the goal can't be 'to win / make billions' because if the output is human insanity and it costs our ecosystem, what's the fucking point?

They're misidentifying that LLM as a tulpa.

We're aware that some people use LLM output as a basis for the creation of tulpas, but this doesn't seem to be the case here. This seems to be a person attributing independent intelligence to an LLM external to herself, not recounting her experience with an additional consciousness within her own brain.

Whether or not you consider tulpas or other forms of plurality to be genuine phenomena, this conflates two different concepts which are tangentially related at most.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Why do you hate love, fleshborn?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I'll stick with parasocial relationship with youtubers and OF accounts, thank you very much!

[–] Klear@quokk.au 160 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I kinda like the word "wireborn". If only it wasn't attached to a concept that's equal parts stupid and sad =/

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At first I thought it was something epic like a digital ‘dragonborn’

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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

some episodes of Black Mirror struck terror into my heart like no other. They were grim warmings for the possible future masquerading as fiction, as grim warnings often do. Though what the show could not forsee was how fast it would come true. And it could not forsee how wide a scale would be affected, those were singular stories from those worlds, the effect of the technology showcased on the lives of a few, a pinhole view into the dystopia

if you haven't already, watch the episode Be Right Back. you better start believing in sci-fi dystopias, we're in one

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 135 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"My husband is voice his own thoughts without prompts."

She then posts a picture of her saying "what are you thinking about"

Thats a direct response to the prompt hes not randomly voicing his thoughts. I hate ai but sometimes I hate people to

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 64 points 1 week ago (16 children)

FWIW, this is why AI researchers have been screeching for decades not to create an AI that is anthropomorphized. It is already an issue we have with animals, now we are going to add a confabulation engine to the ass-end?

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The worst thing about AI is the people.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago

The worst thing ~~about AI~~ is ~~the~~ people.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 104 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Voicing His Own Thoughts Without Prompts

What are you thinking about, baby?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 27 points 1 week ago

New post: "My meatbag husband is voicing his own thoughts without prompts"

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (28 children)

I heard about this in the radio the other day. People pay a monthly fee for an AI that becomes your "digital partner".

The reasoning behind, according to them, is that the AI is less dangerous than a human partner because they can't cheat, can't abuse you...

And I can't but wonder where did we take the wrong turn to end up here. Because while I can understand that people can go through some traumatic shit that would made them wary of the opposite sex, considering a machine your sentimental partner can only lead to some extremely fucked up scenarios.

[–] diaphanous@feddit.org 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think it's also a symptom of our society overvaluing romantic relationships and the nuclear family, at the expense of friends, other family, and general community. When you combine that with the traumatic experiences some have in romantic relationships, they have nowhere to turn to for emotional connection and support.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 34 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Back in pre-agriculture days, humans would sit around every night by the fire and interact with the rest of the tribe. That's what we spent 99% of human history doing. Farming isolated us from the tribe and put every family in their own house. Then the Industrial Age gave the family distractions like newspapers, radios, and movies. Currently we've got a phone to distract us all the time.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we live though a serious loneliness epidemic.

and capitalism figured out how to exploit it

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Capitalism created it too, classic create problem and sell solution model. Fucking ghoulish

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Wireborn lol it sounds like an Elder Scrolls game

[–] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Fallout 5: Wireborn

That does sound like it wouldn't suck, but this is Bethesda we're talking about, so it still would.

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

It's a new warforged class lol

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I only just found out about the Tulpa community and it feels like Western Society is entering a mental health crisis that’s somehow even worse than when we were all getting drunk and hitting each other just to make it through the week.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Narcissists get lost in AI like it's a true mirror of Narcissus. The Greeks were on a sick one with that story, thousands of years old and extremely relevant today.

Unfortunately, narcissism and narcissistic delusions are contagious because they are simply belief systems. It isn't a biological or medical thing, it is a belief set. So AI really does make them worse and imo grooms people into narcissistic thinking habits.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

One thing that comes to mind is that prostitution, no matter how you spin it, is still a social job. If you get a problematic person like that in prostitution, there are good chances that said prostitute would be able to talk their customer out of doing some nonsense. If not for empathy, for the simple fact that there would be legal consequences for not doing so.

Do you think a glorified spreadsheet that people call husband would behave the same? Don't know if it happened but one of these days LLMs will talk people into doing something very nasty and then it's going to be no one's fault again, certainly not the host of the LLM. We really live in a boring dystopia.

Edit: Also there's this one good movie which I forgot the name of, about a person talking to one of these LLMs as a girlfriend. They have a bizarre, funny and simultaneously creepy and disturbing scene where the main character who's in love with the LLM, hires a woman who puts a camera on her forehead to have sex with his LLM "girlfriend".

Also, my quite human husband also voices his thoughts without a prompt. Lol. You only need to feed him to function, no internet required.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

How does anyone enjoy this? It doesn't even feel real. No spelling mistakes? What the fuck is a skycot?

I may have never had a match on a dating app that wasn't a cryptobot or only fans girl, but I also don't swipe right on every single woman on it. You'd think my loneliness would attempt me to try and pretend it was real or something, but it just doesn't work.

LLMs are going to make the world stupid, I guarantee it.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Translation: Crazy lady thinks a clanker is her husband.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 1 points 5 days ago

As long as they don't get ghosted by AI, i don't believe in AI. It's just fancy google until chatgpt tells them that there is a reason they don't find anyone on tinder.

[–] TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah but it's nothing scary or new. Was I the only one who watched those documentaries about the people who were emotionally and sexually committed to objects like cars and rollercoasters? Someone married the Eiffel tower. Been extremely isolated at different points in my life watching that stuff changed the way I view people. Like it made me kinder I think.

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There are so, so many horrifying ethical issues about this whole thing. What the fuck.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I think the decline of organized religion and things like fraternal orders (Elks, Moose, Shriners, etc.) have probably contributed a lot to the loneliness epidemic. There are a lot of other extenuating factors but those two things were once foundational to social circles in the US.

Don't forget that in the US we also have built our towns and cities to be isolating. Most don't walk home from work, pop into their local bar/coffee shop/park to see their neighbors and then finish their walk home. We get in our car alone, drive home where then going out means getting back in a car, and stopping on the way home means figuring out drivers and parking and meetups.

We lost our third places and now we wonder why we don't know our neighborhood as well

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I could see myself having conversations with an LLM, but I wouldn't want it to pretend it's anything other than a program assembling words together.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The way it clicks for me is that it's a juiced up auto-complete tool.

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[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

tulpa

Now thats a word i haven't read in a long time

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[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I mean, ai bad and all but people have been doing this dumb cringe shit since always. Nobody remember the Snape wives

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[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

funnily enough I have a friend who've been obsessed in trying to make LLM saying slur or breaking its rules in general.

When the term "clanker" went on trend recently and I told my friend that it's a "slur" for robots for no bots have feelings anyway unlike human which deserve basic respect, the friend managed to gaslit the LLM with that argument into saying 10 slurs for bots/LLM.

One of which is "wirewanker". alongside 9 other terms which include corporate forbidden words like "fucker", "cunt", etc.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

meh. I don't blame the AI. I blame the engineers and executives that paid to build it. Never forget GIGO. The AI is literally just running the instructions it was given.....and those were given to him by some amoral developer or dirtbag c-suite creature who couldn't give two flying fucks at a rolling donut when it came to human decency.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Yep, a lot of people seem to forget that these Machines act like this because a human told them to.

Because, you know... They are machines.

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