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I was thinking about those outfits celebrities wear that mess with flash photography equipment, and I was watching a dude on TV just now whose shirt pattern was going apeshit because of the camera, and I wondered if there could ever be a pattern or material that, when filmed, caused the camera irreversible damage. And if that were physically possible, I wondered if intentionally showing up to camera-heavy events wearing said shirt would constitute a crime on my part.

It's just a shirt after all. It's not like I'm grabbing a camera and smashing it on the ground. But at the same time, I know it will have that effect, so I'm accountable. But it's not like my shirt is emitting damaging laser beams or anything, it's entirely passive.

Also, is there anything like this scenario in real life/law?

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[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure those devices that block cellphone and radio signals are illegal in public and people have gotten in legal trouble for that

[–] FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Yes you cannot start jamming common used frequencies, or any frequencies really

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Creating something that damages nearby electronics? Yeah, that's probably not going to fly. It really doesn't matter if it only damages things that actively film/photograph you. Like, it'd be illegal if I walked up and hammered every camera that photographed me too.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

It'd also be illegal to point a laser light into a camera to damage the sensor

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

ITT: People debating whether such a shirt is possible and not answering the actual question.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Im all for this. Im all for all the side discussions that emerge from a post like this

[–] dullbananas@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago

A similar thing that might be possible is to create a shirt that shows something that exploits a vulnerability in software. Some hardware can be bricked by software (this used to be the case for MacBook batteries).

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Might not cause damage but there is the Camera Shy Hoodie: https://www.macpierce.com/the-camera-shy-hoodie

Instructions for how to DIY provided, so it doesn't have to be a hoodie.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

happy cake day

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

there was an x-file episode, where the guy emits radiation, which pratically jams cameras, which also gives him xray vision. and also posess the ability regenerate a whole body.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Although that really only works as long as the camera doesn't have an IR filter in place.

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the camera has an IR filter, how would IR be able to make night viewing possible?

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 18 hours ago

It wouldn't, and I think the other responder, while saying a true fact, may have misunderstood this question's purpose.

The hoodie will only work with cameras that support IR night vision (most security cameras, no IR filter), but won't work for most others (phones, dash cams, SLRs (filtered)).

And the dork in me must say, Raspberry Pi offers their Camera Modules in both formats, because noyce.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

It works in the opposite. With the IR filter you get a nice colorful image in daytime, but not the IR lights at night

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

maybe if its wearing a shirt with radioactive elements, usually its lethal amounts.

[–] phonics@lemmy.world 125 points 1 day ago (3 children)

if you invent some passive way to damage tech by just being in its vicinity. not only would it be illegal. it would be a super weapon.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A weapon to surpass metal gear?

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago

Snake?!

Snaaaaaake!!!

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[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How they gonna find out? No cameras to witness it

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

bro's got the level 9 EMP aura

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (6 children)

What you describe is simply not possible with a passive material. Funnily your example of something shooting lasers is probably the only thing that could come close to actual damage

The most you can do is one of those adversarial patterns that just confuses the white balance and autofocus. There is nothing you can do to affect someone shooting in manual mode

If you could damage a camera by pointing it at something, the manufacturer would fix the issue before selling it, because no one is buying a camera that does.

[–] tankfox@midwest.social 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Rick and Morty did this once, Rick simply put on a hat with a QR code that made a robot army recognize him as a high level commander.

A few days ago I read a short story, comp.basilisk.faq by David Langford, which sketched a world in which specific images could irreversibly crash the brain, leading to a full scale worldwide ban on images on the internet and many other places as well. The story postulated hundreds of potential info-hazards with many of them simple enough to be applied via stencil and spray paint. Two of them are branch families of the Mandelbrot set 'and no we won't tell you where, do not look'

Other examples;

  • Snow Crash — Neal Stephenson
  • Blit — David Langford
  • The Atrocity Archives — Charles Stross
  • Doctor Who — “Blink” / “The Time of the Doctor”
  • SCP Foundation — SCP-096
  • SCP-7387 (“The Mathematician’s Grin”)

"Keep your eyes peeled or we'll peel them for you wholesale!"

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you could damage a camera by pointing it at something, the manufacturer would fix the issue before selling it, because no one is buying a camera that does.

Recently, there were news about the LIDAR of Volvo cars destroying camera sensors when they were aimed into the direction of the IR laser beam. Yet, this is not a passive item.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even that was debated. No one proved it continued when you took another video, just that it broke the video of the lidar itself.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

You could maybe defeat LIDAR with retro reflectors or something. Probably not, but that's the only case it'd be possible realistically, since it's actively shooting lasers out that you could reflect back, without actually locating the camera. Anything else, yeah it'd require actively finding the camera and attacking it, since it is only receiving light. I guess if you wore something bright enough to damage any camera looking in your direction that would also work, but I don't think it'd be considered passive, and you'd also blind everyone else who can see you, probably permanently, and it'd require huge amounts of energy.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

OK you're going to need CO2 gas, 2 mirrors, a glass. Container and a high voltage capacitor.

...
Step 3454674) charge the capacitor to 60078V.

Step 5746678) now run!

[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Strap a lidar emitter to yourself. Those car sensors have been shown to damage cameras.

If you want privacy from cameras, there are those hats with strong ir leds. Not sure how well they work.

[–] discosnails@lemmy.wtf 0 points 15 hours ago

The FCC has (had? Do they still exist?) rules about this, very straightforward.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My dude is trying to create a shirt that just continuously recharges and fires EMPs lol

[–] cloudless@piefed.social 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)
  1. Create sentient AI
  2. Let AI take control of the internet upon receiving the QR code
  3. Wear your t-shirt containing the QR code, show it to a camera connected to the internet
  4. Now AI takes over the world

Black Mirror S7E4 - Plaything

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was an episode that ended right where it started getting good. Not that the episode was bad before that, but it left me wanting more of that, not a jump to a new premise in the next episode.

The story of this episofe had enough potential for a 6 episode spinoff series. Or maybe 4. Anyway 1 was way too soon.

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[–] remon@ani.social 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It's not possible to damage cameras passively, so there isn't an answer. But if it was possible it probably would be made illegal to wear those around cameras.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 22 hours ago

maybe if its emitting lots radiation

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More like illegal to wear anywhere in the USA considering that we're quickly becoming a surveillance state.

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[–] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I think it depends on whether it’s active or passive. Active - e.g. a laser that damages a camera sensor, then yes, your device is actively damaging someone else’s camera - deliberate property damage. Passive - e.g. reflective strips so the exposure is bad, a pattern that is hard to focus on or similar- that’s fine - camera owner is making a decision to expose their gear to the environment. Even if, say, it’s a changing pattern that deceives the autofocus into working constantly (no, I don’t know exactly how that would work, but it’s the best I can think of at short notice) so it wears out faster.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

It depends a lot where your story happens. Laws are quite different.

In my country, this little detail would save you ....

it's not like my shirt is emitting damaging laser beams or anything, it's entirely passive.

... unless you were deliberately wearing this for the purpose of doing such damage, and somebody could prove that.

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