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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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Modlog: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog/25693?page=1&actionType=All&userId=21053985 , banned by @goat@sh.itjust.works

For context, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, and got into a few arguments.

More context:

It started (to my knowledge) with this comment, goat pinged db0 after he downvoted a comment

a note on the uyghurs (click to show

For the record, I believe that the Uyghurs are mistreated by the CCP, and are experiencing cultural erasure and Human Rights abuses, but there's a lack of evidence that it's a genocide specifically (especially since it seems to target the religion, rather than the ethnic group).

Goat banned IndustryStandard, leading to this thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/ leading to goat commenting this:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/21070262

He mentions this:

We constantly encounter bots, spammers, alt accounts, trolls, and doxxers, so I need to be vigilant by regularly checking who’s interfering and from where.

Which I find ironic, since there was some vote manipulation happening, which goat did nothing about (and could be behind), but I'll get to that later.

After some more arguments, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, saying that letting tankie users engage on dbzer0 comms means other users are tankies:


source

He said that it's different for LW (lemmy.world) and SJW (sh.itjust.works, not the other word). He then poster the "Tank Man" picture to !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, as he expected us to retaliate (being tankies, according to him). We did not, in fact, retaliate: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21089819

He also posted this in tankiejerk: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52268655, https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20733015.

He also may have done vote manipulation, and at the very least allowed it.
Take, for example, this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21091723
Per lemvotes, it was downvoted by the following users:

The relevant ones here are:

They have all downvoted exclusively arguments against goat and others, and were made almost at the same time.

After a bit more arguing (I'm not posting the specific comments because it's tedious, and they're easy to see by scrolling through goat's profile.) goat decided to ban all dbzer0 users from meanwhileongrad, I think this comment marks when he decided to do this, but I may be wrong.

note on the post that comment was in reply to

I think this reply (by unruffled) was taken out of context. Unruffled is absolutely not defending what's happening to the Uyghurs, they're saying that a lot of people have a double standard, where they will not hesitate to condemn the Uyghur genocide, but hesitate on the gaza one, especially when the gaza one is more severe and urgent. To quote them directly:

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying but of course they misrepresented it. You know exactly what Americans are like. They couldn't give a shit about the uyghurs, except as a way to China bash and feel superior. I also explicitly said later in the comments I agreed it was a genocide. They're just doin' the usual bad faith takes.

Feel free to quote me lol

Since this goat had been banned from dbzer0 for being hostile: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=63615

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

I think @goat@sh.itjust.works has always been like this but it seems in the past he was able to hide it and make himself seem more genuine and less reactionary to others. Though now it seems the mask has fully come off. PTB for sure.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Giving moderators the ability to view who has voted on posts has been disastrous.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

And very helpful for well meaning mods

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

It's a good tool for finding vote manipulation, but yeah, it has been abused.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was banned for that trashy community for calling him out here about his hypocrisy towards the genocide in palestine

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

It’s a waste of time & effort to comment. They censor anything left of the Council on Foreign Relations, anything that questions this week’s TV news narratives. They’re the most centristest Western chauvinist around, who will never notice their chains.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I'll state here for the record, since despite I not making a single comment in this entire situation, i've been accused of "denying genocide":

I know nothing about Holodomor or Xinjiang, nothing at all. I've been meaning to read into Xinjiang in particular, but it seems hard to untangle for me + i'm busy these days. I'm not "denying" shit i literally am just clueless about this, i'm not going to remove pro/anti-xinjiang comments while i don't know shit about it.

The fact that some tried to twist it into me "supporting genocide" is really fucking malicious. I haven't ever commented on it even once, even in my criticisms of china because i'm simply too uneducated to confidently say anything about it.

I did upvote Unruffled's comment which was the 'proof', but in my defense i did not see that last part, and i only really read the first paragraph.

I should also mention i am only speaking for myself, not the other admins. That's for them to do.

FYI goat, i downvoted the post you screenshotted because the person, @isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de, made this disgusting comment and got permabanned on LW + here for it. He's a horrible person, which is why i downvoted his post. Not because of the content.

I am not a tankie, not even hexbear/ml users consider me as such; I've also seen other stuff about me being a Soviet apologist (?) Which, no, from using the search feature, I have not it seems. Unless they're including the time I was being nice to cowbee... ? Either way I personally do not have a positive opinion of the USSR but I really don't want to get into that here.

I have also had a conversation with cowbee themselves once where I told them I disagree with them with the USSR, China and Ukraine about a week ago, so no, I am not an apologist for the Soviet union.

I think that's all the claims debunked. I feel pretty hurt about all of them and that I had to do this, but I'm glad its finally done. I've been feeling anxious about this for days. But I have already forgiven pugjesus, so I'll let it go. I should've done this earlier, since the smearing was taking a big toll on me and putting way more stress on me than I already had. :/

[–] Blaze@lazysoci.al 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fyi @Zagorath@aussie.zone

On top of that:

To be clear, if I haven’t been already, I 100% condemn China’s actions towards the Uyghurs. Is it technically a genocide? Depends what definition you’re working with, but to my mind it meets the definition.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/21075559

Posting this here as !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works single mod seems quite ban happy lately, and resorting to debatable arguments

My community is also bigger lol

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20731327

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago
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[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 66 points 2 days ago (34 children)

the dude who has admitted on Lemmy to being a former member of several neo-nazi forums because he finds nazis "interesting" is being an asshole. that's shocking.

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