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I grew up around older adults for most of my life, in a very "patriotic" community. In fact, my mom used to be centrist and my dad, right-of-center.

I was a cisgender heterosexual girl. Before I myself came out as pan, I really had the mindset of "LGBTQ+ people don't deserve representation". The thing is, I didn't really care what people did, but I didn't think it had to be announced everywhere. I didn't think representation was necessary, and I was kind of ignorant to the injustice LGBTQ+ people face. I thought "Oh, they already have rights, gay marriage has already been legalized, why do they care so much?"

I doubted climate change.

Keep in mind that my grandparents are part-Italian. My grandpa was half-Italian and came from Northern Italy, so I thought just because my grandpa came here legally, all immigrants could afford to do that.

Well, after a while, I started to become friends with other queer and trans people, and it opened my eyes to a new way of thinking. I no longer supported Trump. I started respecting other people more and later found my identity along the way as a genderfluid, left-leaning transmasc person.

I changed quite early in life, thankfully. I changed at age 13, which is better than being like 73, but at least it's a change either way.

I thought being patriotic didn't mean to make America actually better for people, but to just defend everything it did and everything Trump did. I even wore MAGA merch, and I realize how stupid that was now, LMAO.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good for you. Most MAGA wont be making sexual identity changes and waking up. They will have to be personally hurt by polices made and escape the propaganda that it's the Dem's fault.

A hard road to travel. Glad you got out, welcome to reality.

[–] atheqtpie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thank you so much! I actually knew a queer MAGA person who was very "I'm one of the good lesbians" and also anti-hormones for anyone, even adults.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

She'll face a very hard lesson when MAGA turns on her. Being "one of the good ones" won't mean shit!

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Congrats on the growth and self reflection, hallmarks of a good person

[–] atheqtpie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

“Proud to be an American 🇺🇸” “Trump is a good guy! My dad told me!” Was how I acted 😭

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's called empathy .... the ability to see and understand the world through the perspective of someone else or another group of people.

It doesn't mean you are necessarily sensitive or emotional ... it just means you have an ability to see the world through the eyes of someone else. Once you do that, you begin to understand why people are the way they are and why things are the way they are. You begin to understand that the world is full of complex problems full of complex people and nothing is ever simple and straight forward. You begin to realize that the best way to deal with the world is through mutual understanding, communication, awareness, constant connection and a neverending need to want to learn more.

It's always nice to see another young person like you make that change. It's a sign of hope that the world in the future can change for the better.

[–] atheqtpie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago

Thank you so much! :D

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Dude thank goodness people like you exist

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is it fair to say that since you had to face these queer thoughts in your personal life, that made a big difference?

Most people are a part of the cis-straight majority, so they many never have to face the questions you did. How hard do you think it is for a Trump supporter like that to reconsider their stance?

[–] atheqtpie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago

I think so. I feel like if they have queer friends, a cishet MAGA person MIIIGHT change their stance, but they also might be very discriminatory. Since I, however, dealt with these thoughts and had my first crush on a girl around that time, I started acknowledging it and talking to more queer people and changed my stance. I also became friends with a boy whose parents came to the U.S. undocumented, so when I found out how hurt he was by my opinion, I began researching what they do to immigrants.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think I was about 11 when I hit the youtube conservative rabbit hole, 12 when I started improving. Main context is this: my dad has always been conservative, and he loved(s) Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson. My mom and her family are vaguely democrats (not leftists, they don't actually give a shit about anyone). All of my family is believing Mormons.

When I was 11, I got my mom's old iPhone. Obviously, I started watching youtube videos, and as the algorithm has done so many times before, I ended up being served with Isaac Butterfield videos about "schoolboys being forced to apologize to female classmates for rape", and "etsy store owner makes tiny wool penis prosthetics for transgender infants", which are both obviously bullshit. Maybe it was the fact that I'm just really neurodivergent, but my reactions never went any further than, "huh, that's weird". I never hated queer people, and I didn't say anything crazy to anyone.

When I was about 12, I started to stop believing in Mormonism and religion in general, after watching some videos from this ex-Jehovah's Witness called Owen (Morgan?). Then one of the teachings gave me so much shame that I spent a couple years hating myself so much that I either had to stop believing or stop living. Then I heard stories from ex-Mormons about the actual crimes and hatred and genocide, and I was just flabbergasted. I learned that there were secret temple rituals, and that I wasn't even supposed to know that they exist. Anyways, when I started disbelieving in that, that spread to the other stuff my parents taught me. I wasn't a good person by any means, but I could recognize that there was no point in listening to my parents about anything, just from the fact that they can excuse child rape from a man that they claim to have been a prophet of God.

I watch(ed) tons of gay shit on youtube, and saw that Then I actually met queer people, they were pretty chill. Then I became friends with some. Now I have three diagnoses and I'm aroace, so tha's cool.

So, yeah, be patient with more conservative teenagers, most of them probably haven't figured things out, and it's just their parents and church leaders speaking through them. God this is long, mb lol, I can delete it if you want. Glad that you had character growth!

[–] atheqtpie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I will be patient with this one queer teen I knew even if they bullied me. She might not know better but she thinks she's one of the "good lesbians". And that LGBTQ+ people are evil with an "agenda". I don't talk to her anymore because she blocked me and thinks that Latinos are evil and that they're all illegal. What a shame, her grandma is actually Korean and came to the U.S.

But yeah, I hope she changes her ways.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago

I hope she changes too. Sounds like she's got quite a bit of cognitive dissonance, that's unfortunate. Considering yourself to be "one of the good ones" has never gone well.

[–] atheqtpie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago

Don't delete it! I love hearing others' perspectives!