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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Please, before reporting this post for racism, familiarize yourself with the history of the phrase “Uncle Tom.” The phrase has been used by the Black community against itself, recently in Spike Lee’s Bamboozled.

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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 132 points 1 week ago (10 children)

"Uncle Tom" means something very specific, not "black man I dislike/disagree with". Using it like that is just racist.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Uncle Tom” means something very specific

I've never heard that phrase before (also not American, so probably never would have).

I'm guessing it's some sort of reference for a slave collaboration with slavery owners?

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Nailed it in one. It's a term derived from the book Uncle Tom's Cabin, which features a black slave of the same name. The character is widely criticized for diminishing the harm and threat of slavery to black people. In short, an "Uncle Tom" is a black person that takes the side of the oppressors against their own people, usually for little-to-no reward other than being "one of the good ones." To use the epithet so liberally just because the person is black is not ok.

[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It’s honestly insane to me that Uncle Tom came to mean this, when in the novel the character literally refuses to inform against escaped slaves and is flogged to death for it. A quite unfortunate collapse of an extremely complex character in one of the most important novels in the history of abolitionism.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

It’s always wild when characters in the public perception are very different to in the source material.

Jeckyll & Hyde is another example. Jeckyll is a doctor who drinks a potion which changes his personality into a ruffian. Except he’s not, at least in the original short story.

Jeckyll is always in control and aware of what he’s doing. All the potion does is change his appearance so that he can do the bad things that he’s been doing since he was young without losing his social standing.

The whole point of the story is that his personality doesn’t change at all and that he’s just donning a disguise (albeit a sci-fi disguise) so that he can get away with it without losing his day job.

Yet in every adaptation is basically treated as a werewolf story.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's definitely been Flanderized pretty drastically over time, but honestly, I can see where it stemmed from, with his "happy" times with the "good" master. While I don't expect Stowe intended it as such, anything but a full bore condemnation of slavery, top to bottom, is understandably seen (at least by modern eyes) as being soft on it, if not outright apologetic. And the character's inclusion in minstrel shows and the general popularity with white people probably didn't help it any on that front.

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whoa. That is very specific. TYVM for the explanation.

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[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Yeah that caught me way off guard.

He may be too middle of the road but to call him a race traitor like that is absolutely wild.

Like this is a headline I expect to see from a hardcore rightwing publication.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, I get it. Obama wasn't a bad President on the scale of US Presidents, but there are a lot of left wing people who have genuine grievances with him.

I could see anyone who is an advocate for or Middle Eastern themselves be pretty damned pissed at him, considering he dropped twenty-six thousand bombs on seven countries. This was AFTER he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was right smack in the middle of the Finance Industry back in the 2008 Crash and paid very close attention to what he did to "rescue the Economy" in the aftermath of it.

Let's just say that the complete total crash from well above most of Europe to near zero of Social Mobility in America and the acceleration of the growth in inequality (especially between people whose income comes from Work vs people whose income comes from Asset Ownership) and subsequent problems with impoverishment of the Working Class which fed the growth of the vote in Far Right Populists like Trump, are all down to which kind of people Obama choose to Rescue and which ones he chose to pay for it.

He didn't just cause grievances for left wing people, he fucked up the US with his choices at a pivotal moment, pretty much plowing, fertilizing and seeding the field were Trumpism grew.

His influence is way more massive than it seem to many, mainly because of the moment in History when he became president made his choices have far reaching effects that structurally pivoted the US Economy which in turn cascaded into changes to the US Politics and Society.

However, as he's a veritable songbird with the gift of the gab (plus Liberals pushed for decade the whole Racist idea that his race made him inherently a better person) a lot of people formed opinions on him based on his race and his speeches rather than on his actions.

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pretty much. The moment I saw Uncle Tom in the title...

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It is more of a pejorative nowadays. This is also not the first tme it has been done

https://usso.uk/research/deconstructing-uncle-tom-abroad-the-case-of-an-american-president/

The context here is Obama has already been criticized in the exact same way by a Palestinian activist. They are probably paying homage to this.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I'm not clear what your point is here. That it's ok because other people did it? That is a poor excuse for casual racism.

If you're just pointing to the term's historical context, that's besides the point. I'm not saying that the term is universally racist, I'm saying that it's racist to use the term in this context.

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[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Here is what Obama wrote:

After two years of unimaginable loss and suffering for Israeli families and the people of Gaza, we should all be encouraged and relieved that an end to the conflict is within sight; that those hostages still being held will be reunited with their families; and that vital aid can start reaching those inside Gaza whose lives have been shattered. More than that, though, it now falls on Israelis and Palestinians, with the support of the U.S. and the entire world community, to begin the hard task of rebuilding Gaza — and to commit to a process that, by recognizing the common humanity and basic rights of both peoples, can achieve a lasting peace.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He's doing the same as for example the BBC does when they say that Israelis are "killed" and Palestinians "die", that the IDF "says" whilst Hamas "claims" and mention the 7 October "massacre" whilst the mass bombing of Gaza is an "intervention" or at most "invasion".

In simple terms: subtly framing one side more positively than the other in order to subconsciously elicit a more positive response in the minds of the audience for one side, all the while claiming neutrality because the message seems neutral, it's the choice of words which is not.

This is an old trick from Propaganda.

So the OP rightly points that specific kind of Propaganda Spin in Obama's words.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Damn what a cunt. He should shut the fuck up.

"In April 2022, there were 4,450 Palestinian security prisoners in Israeli prisons – including 160 children, 32 women, and over 1,000 "administrative detainees" (indefinitely incarcerated without charge"

These people and their families also suffering.

Of course he doesn't gave a shit. If he cannot stand for oppressed kids and women's, it is clearly he doesn't care for oppressed black community in the US.

[–] MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Why are we mad at Obama again? He mind controlling Trump and Bibi?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago (4 children)

For humanizing the aggressors while dehumanizing the victims in a public statement about genocide

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

By limiting the subject of loss & suffering to the families of Israeli hostages and including every Gazan, respectively? The other Israelis didn't really suffer like they did.

Seems a malicious misreading on your part: you guys need to work on your filters instead of choosing a less coherent, most antagonistic interpretation.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Obama gave Israel 38 billion of taxpayer dollars. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37345444

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 21 points 1 week ago

Because he’s shit? Dude loves drone bombing Middle Eastern kids and apparently promoting Zionist dehumanisation tactics.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

TIL: Obama was a murderous bastard

I remember wondering why the fuck were we drone stroking weddings full of women and children. If Obama can do it why not Trump.

Thus we get to the crux of the issue.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The weddings and the first responders who showed up to help. We tried to terrorize them out of trying to help each other.

We are a monstrous country.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Both sidesing a genocide is pretty contemptable. It's also pretty contemptable that liberals are pretending the mass genocide wasn't going on for over a year before Trump was elected

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[–] Retreaux@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obama's take really does smack of bothsides-itis, and is a very clearly diplomatic approach to what was undeniably a one sided massacre. Ms Rachel is not wrong here.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

For the people who don't understand the tweet:

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Denying Palestinians a communal identity has always been a key approach to dehumanization within Western discourse.

The Western world has historically tied itself into knots justifying horrific atrocities like the Atlantic slave trade while trying to present itself as a champion of personal freedoms.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Indeed. And also he is putting a few people who have a relative guarding the concentration camp on the same level of suffering as the people in the concentration camp undergoing a Holocaust. This is not a both sides moment.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Obama's just jealous that he isn't ordering the drone strikes on brown families anymore

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

I think he meant just the Israeli families of the hostages suffered, not all of Israel, while all people of Gaza suffered.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Instead of merely posting an image of text that

  • challenges our ability to verify the message & review context, and
  • breaks accessibility, searchability, & fault tolerance for no compelling reason while making the web less usable

could OP provide a link to source? We shouldn't have needed some other commenter to fill in missing context.

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