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Both Top Gun and Star Wars battles have more to do with WWII air battles than modern air or plausible sci-fi space battles.

Luke is also a skilled pilot and an excellent shot. And the movie never establishes how experienced his squadmates are, nor can we just assume they are all highly trained since they are part of a cobbled together resistance and not a traditional military. And the only thing he does better than the others is hit the target. His survival wasn't because he was better, it was because he was the last one left to make the suicide run, and because he was rescued at the last minute.

Oh, and let's not forget that he never could have done it without the wise old mentor. You know, the guy from a previous generation that fought in a great war. The guy who passes on ancient wisdom and who is the only reason look was able to make the shot. Not exactly something that fits the "Our generation is the awesomest" picture the post is trying to paint.

Also, Star Wars came out in 1977, not 1970.

You didn't even once talk about slop and how sticky it could get.

2/10

from watching "fighter pilot reviews" of the movie that was one aspect they said rings true

I'm gonna assume every other aspect of the movie does not ring true because that movie was so bad compared to the first Top Gun. There's a big list of stuff that doesn't make sense.

Yeah but it's fun anyway, because Bob Odenkirk is awesome.

He also got his ass handed to him in that scene...

Skill + strength. It's not always about how hard you hit someone but where and how.

So is pretty much every movie, mate. The point is to make it believable as you possibly can, without tipping over into farce. You can believe that an experienced fighter can beat an inexperienced one. Thats not an issue. The issue, for me anyway, usually comes when they take a hit. Thats usually when I start blowing big watery farts at the screen. See also small women beating up massive built dudes. Like The Woman King, seeing 50something Viola Davis taking haymakers from 25 year old heavy weight like they are nothing. Each punch enough to knock just about anyone on the planet out cold.

John Wick is another one. The gun play and stuff is fun, but as a tactical exercise, John Wick regularly gives up good cover for more sensational action shots that should have gotten him killed a million times over. The trick is making it fun. If you can do that, the audience forgives any bullshit. If you cant make it fun, the audience will nitpick it to fuck.

I like the one in Secondhand Lions. Similar theme. Perhaps more believable.

Sadly the movie only really communicates this with a line said almost in passing.

The original Rogue Squadron game has a mission where you fly the canyon path the way Luke did. Get gold on that and you'll get an idea of just how good of a pilot Luke already is before he ever touches an X-Wing. And on the topic of the X-Wing, it is arguably the most advanced fighter ever made at that time, yet another untold portion of the movie that was intended to already be part of the lore lol.

Luke also used to shoot womprats while racing his T-16 around the canyons, and womprats are smaller than the Death Star's exhaust port. Combine all that with his latent force power and the trench run is actually not a far fetched feat for him at all.

Yeah seriously this is kinda nonsense, it's more akin to a professional level stunt pilot who is independent. Scouted out and recruited to a company that does air shows.

He's already highly skilled, practiced and knowledgeable in the field. He at most just needs a few weeks to learn the routine of the new company and he's good to go.

Even ignoring the space magic. He was already one of the most skilled pilots because he's been flying for his entire life at extremely high levels.

Also, you know, he's the son of the most powerful force wielder in the universe. Tends to help with piloting a bit.

How long is it supposed to be?

This is true, but everything is copied from everything else. Star Wars was written to the template of the Hero’s Story myth as outlined by Joseph Campbell, and the plot and several characters are taken from Kurosawa’s The Hidden Fortress. This is not conjecture, Lucas has openly said this.

Thank goodness I have an opporunity to post this.

Everybody thinks GenX are Boomers.

It’s because they’ve been right about that their entire lives.

They’re called Boomers beause they’re the largest generation. Being the largest generation means that you’re the generation with the most purchasing power, the most cultural cache, and the most voting power. Corporations, the media, and political parties have spent the past 50-60 years making the Boomers the foundation of their strategy.

The whole of mainstream society has been telling the Boomers for their entire lives that they’re the most important people in society.nIt’s only now that they’re dying off in a significant way that this strategy is starting to fail.

Nope he literally teaches the young pilots how to do the mission perfectly then at the end he goes “fuck it” I’ll do it myself and almost get myself killed for no reason.

What about his audience, though?

problem is, you need the underdog to actually fail at least once

Is Tom Cruise an underdog at this point?