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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 89 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

We've got an issue here. It won't let me see the post. I believe you, but is there an archive version of this?

Edit: Here is the original article: https://www.404media.co/ice-and-cbp-agents-are-scanning-peoples-faces-on-the-street-to-verify-citizenship/

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 32 points 9 hours ago

Archive link since that's behind a paywall: https://archive.ph/C7jJu

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

There's gonna be SOOOO many lawsuits over this.

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Won't it be super FUN when we use our own App to find them all and bring them to court to face their trials and sentences? I'm staying in super good shape just because...

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

The wording of "alien" is pretty disturbing in and of itself. Not illegal or anything, not "foreign", but "alien". Might as well just say "unwanted".

[–] m4xie@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 minutes ago

There are a whole lot of aliens with citizenship. Both people that have naturalized and citizens born abroad to American parents.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Hello, puny earthlings, it is I, the Alien. Surrender, or you shall suffer.

/j

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

If we feed in enough images of trump from videos, bet one will say he's not a citizen.

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

On the bright side, you can definitevely change your gender at birth just before you get shot. So that's a thing.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

change your gender at birth just before you get shot.

At school? Or, do you mean in the coming Republicans' planned genocide?

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh, either or, or both are likely. What repugnant hell...

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

I think it "overrides" proof of citizenship because of the numbers theyre told to deport. A "figure it out later, but get the deportation numbers now" scenario

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well... they're definitely deporting Obama

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Make sure they do Melania too.

Dude. You know they won't.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I want everyone to be speaking like this, so I will lead by example.

If they fucking try it, I will kill them. Then and there.

Don't kill. Maim. Make them ugly and weak. More useful than dead.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Doesn't mean a lot online, talking to a bunch of people who don't know you from Adam. Better to start speaking like this in person with your neighbors, preferably not in range of any recording devices. A single neighbor that knows that you're willing to raise up arms in their defense is worth more than any number of online strangers that you couldn't possibly help defend

On an unrelated note, the Second Amendment is not just for conservatives

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

I have. I threatened to castrate a co-worker if he touches me again.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm interested in the Trolley Problem of a hypothetical murder of an ICE agent weighed against the hypothetical murder of a random member of the 1%.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Pull the lever when the trolly is halfway across do it slides down both tracks

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

throw the trolly in reverse, go back to the junction, switch tracks and back over the other guy too.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 10 hours ago

404 Media is journalist owned (there are four of them) and they’re doing some of the best journalism in the USA lately. I signed up about a year ago and don’t regret it. If you’ve got the extra cash and you actually give a damn about our broken media landscape, you could find a lot worse places to spend it.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 158 points 12 hours ago

Exclusive: algorithm used by fascism app has been leaked!

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 11 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Wait, like match = definitive OK? Or no match = definitive OK? Or no match = definitive not OK? I ask because the details are quite bedeviled.

The first is relatively benign, since it would be a “greedy” OK-list that errs on the side of leaving people alone and otherwise, in a no-match case, requires using traditional methods for identity verification. That kind of app would be the equivalent of Global Entry or TSA Pre-check, an efficiency measure to wave familiar faces through.

The second is worse because it acts as an overconfident not-OK-list that usually errs on the side of leaving people alone but doesn’t account for false positives.

The third is what the headline implies. It’s an OK-list that aggressively errs on the side of “not OK.” The only reason to make an app like that is computer says no.

Regardless, fuck ICE. Fuck Trump.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Dude. Its an extra excuse. Everything is an excuse. Please stop pretending there's coherent reasoning or consistent logic here. It's all pure exercise of power shit.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You may have misunderstood me. I asked because knowing how their weapons work has immediate strategic implications for my community. I’m not attempting to justify, lessen any alarm, or describe secret police as anything but what they are.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

Its an excuse. Positive ID overrides.

It's always an excuse.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 13 minutes ago
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If they scan your face and it says you're illegally in the country then you're getting arrested, no matter what evidence you have to the contrary.

False positives are arrested and held in custody until the legal system can get to them.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 4 hours ago

That’d be case 3: when in doubt, detain. Blatantly illegal.

What made me think that it wasn’t that case was that OP mentions app specifies whether or not an order of deportation had been issued.

If that is one of several possible “detain” conditions, the app would function like case 2. If that was the only trigger for detention, the app would function like case 1.

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[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 152 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And yet apps helping identify ICE agents are taken down.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 63 points 13 hours ago

Rules for thee, yada yada

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 97 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I actually do not understand how some people find this unconcerning. This is like blatantly dangerous.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

everyone is in denial that everything will "return to normal" when trump dies, and hoping that happens within this 2nd term. mind you "normal" in that sense is unsustainable ratfucking of any and all public funds to the detriment of everything else

...when he dies and nothing else changes...

that's when shit goes from bad to worse real fucking quick

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 66 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I'm just surprised that they didn't call the app Minority Report - I mean it's right there and so accurate

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[–] 98vesselsreptile@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 hours ago

wearing face mask as the ice people are doing, also probably wear something that cant be yanked off easily.

[–] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Uhm excuse me is this app available in an official app store? Does this mean ICE SIDELOADED THEIR APP?

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 17 points 10 hours ago

Serious answer to non-serious question, corpos can deliver apps to phones past app stores, e.g. intune/company portal etc.

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[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 103 points 13 hours ago

Fascism: there's an app for that!

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