As they mention in the article they anticipated a much slower collapse and likely prepared for that. But at the rate it’s currently going, it’s quite astounding. The fragmentation and internal strife in Russia are certainly not over.

I did read one article that made a reference to this more being an “end of the beginning” rather than the “beginning of the end”. Which I agree with. It hasn’t collapsed the federation overnight, but it’s certainly weakened it a hell of a lot.

[–] vacuumflower@vlemmy.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Living in Russia, I have mixed feelings about this slow controlled collapse TBF.

For Russia itself, maybe things being over after a couple of months (or years) of civil war starting in 1999 would be better.

But for everybody else, of course, there are bigger risks associated with that. Not really something nuclear even, just economically less pleasant.

[–] dustedhands@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Are you in Russia right now? How are things over there?

[–] robolemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I really hate reportage like this. Every government, even seemingly incompetent ones like the current crop in the UK, have hundreds or thousands of contingency plans for things of wildly varying likelihood. This is just one of those things.

This is just as informative as those articles that say eating sugar triggers the same receptors as cocaine. Yes it's true, but there aren't that many reward mechanisms in the brain, so a lot of shit hits those same receptors.

It's data and it's true, but it's not useful information.

[–] Dazawassa@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We have a plan to invade literally every country and for if that country invades us that is updated regularly. I always found that kind of funny but it isn't shocking.

[–] vacuumflower@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago

Why would it be funny?

Having a plan for an unlikely event is not funny if having such a plan is your job. There are plenty of people who should do exactly that.

Because not having a plan for an unlikely event that bloody happens is, eh, negatively funny.

[–] dustedhands@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's like saying the police is preparing for thieves robbing the bank or the fire department preparing for a wildfire. It's part of their job and it would be stranger not to have a contingency plan.

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My body is ready

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

The anticipatory poop challenge part deux.

[–] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If you're preparing for it, is it really that "unexpected"...?

[–] SRoss@feddit.de 15 points 2 years ago

You can be prepared for all kinds of things you aren't expecting. For example you could get occupational disablement insurance while not expecting to ever use it.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago

Maybe they're preparing for it so it won't be unexpected

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

In their place i would rather prepare for scenario of unexpected collapse of United Kingdom.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who says they have not prepared for that?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Considering their preparations for other things, like brexit or covid i would say LOL.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (7 children)

To be fair, it's not exactly an unexpected scenario.

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[–] cashews_win@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was made into a film called Children of Men.

[–] MelonTheMan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Great movie and accurately depicts brexit

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Very unlikely scenario. Expected collapse on the other hand...

[–] vacuumflower@vlemmy.net 3 points 2 years ago

I mean, collapse of Russia is something very much expected in Russia by many people since 1993.

What makes it less expected is that it hasn't happened in 30 years, though.

[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Plan for a possible possible eventuality? That'll be a first.

I assume there was a plan that Cameron got rid of because reasons and now they can't find the PDF so they'll have to do it again.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Someone couldn't rotate it so they just deleted it and pretended it never came.

[–] Techpriest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Regardless of the article, using the term "unexpected" is kind of naive at this point.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I suppose it's unexpected because Putin would rather bomb his own citizens than allow a change of status quo.

[–] copylefty@lemmy.fosshost.com 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Am I missing something or did nothing in the article match the title?

[–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

I thought it was; maybe the link you got was to the front page, or something? The article was mostly about how Prigozhin's attempted coup (or whatever it was) surprised Western leaders, and a bunch of speculation about how the West is scrambling to prepare contingemcy plans. So the one I read seemed to match.

However, I think it was a fluff article, with little substance. Prigozhin has been agitating for weeks, and I seriously doubt MI6 (or the CIA) was surprised by his actions. Or that nobody has a contingency plan for chaos in Russia. Putin's a dictator, and when dictators die, it's rarely a peaceful transition of power.

[–] SocializedHermit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

"Some people in UK government maybe consider thinking about doing something because something happened". Much better title.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly I doubt that Putin will fall from power that easily. He seems to take nots of precautions and he has lots of friends

[–] imgprojts@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Looks old now. He will probably die anyway.

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[–] imgprojts@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know mexico is really worried....so they drink tequila and move on.

[–] graphite@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

so they drink tequila and move on

based

[–] _finger_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Aw shit here we go again

[–] blackbrook@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I sincerely do not understand why...

Maybe it's your attitude and insulting manner? None of your arguments required your comments about "liberals". Given those, it's disingenuous to attribute the downvotes to your "facts".

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