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So I was watching a few youtubes and remembered how the vast majority (of like the ten) nes games me and my sister had were hard as all hell. I loved to play Little Nemo and Street Fighter 2010 but I am pretty sure I never made it past the third level of either. Let alone infamously hard games like The Lion King.

Which got me thinking. Basically every game for the past 20 years has been designed around instant gratification and being accessible. We outright had to make a new concept "hard but fair" to account for games like Dark Souls that are designed to be difficult but beatable as opposed to putting you in a death spiral if you hesitate too long on a hard jump (hello Ninja Gaiden).

So do the younger folk even have a concept of a "favorite game" where you likely never experienced more than fifteen minutes worth of content?

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[–] MycoBro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The fucking lion king. Aladdin was hard af too. But roger rabbit? I couldn’t beat that bouncing around mother fucker and I don’t know if I ever did. And fuck kid Icarus. Another one I never beat. But the answer to the question is Turok for 64

[–] Castob@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Slay the spire I must have 400hrs+ of game time on multiple platform. Yet I still suck ass!!

[–] tomcatt360@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Overwatch. I've played since 2018 and I still haven't climbed out of Bronze. I love the story and character lore a ton though!

[–] Doxatek@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I used to be gold and platinum but I think the ranking system is broken because I'm as good as I ever was and am consistently bronze -__-

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[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not very good at Diablo 4, I mainly picked it up thinking it would have a sort of MMO thing and expected something not too different to a grindy time waster.
I mainly play other genres, and the last Diablo game I played was D2, when I was a teenager (mid-30s now), which I didn't even get far into.

I just started Act 6, which I believe is the last, most recently. Where I skip cut scenes in other games I'm really enjoying the story of this, and so I'm finding myself watching them all the way through. The voice acting is great and I've never actually felt properly bored.

I'm not bad, but not what I see as the average player of this sort of thing (so not very good either), yet I enjoy it a fair bit! Veeeery dark story, and the cut scenes are incredibly gory sometimes. I think that's really cool from an artistic standpoint, I kind of get why people like deep horror films so much: there's just so much cool stuff artists can do with dark themes, and the artists in Diablo 4 really go ham with this! Lilith has like a freakin' head of horn clusters, like they said "fuck two horns, just keep adding them!" But they made her character REALLY cool looking by doing so. I love it.

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[–] tebro@lemmy.tebro.fi 2 points 2 years ago

Escape from tarkov. I am intrigued by the concept of the game, but each time I played I was outmatched in gear and skill.

[–] minthenry@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

Does it count I loved Quake 3 back in the day? Wasn't good at all at it but still I think it's one of the greatest games ever made and I loved playing it, especially Rocket Arena.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not that young anymore but I put more hours into Planetside 2 than is even reasonable for how fucking bad I am at it.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

It really just depends on the genre. Platformers usually have one set difficulty. As does games like Castle Crashers. A few rogue likes offer difficulty settings but they typically range from very difficult to impossible without options for easy.

That said games like the lion king were interesting because their difficulty is typically so high because designers back then were designing for the arcade, even with home release only games. It's a mindset the industry was in.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Road Rash on the PS1, absolutely loved it but could barely win a race on it πŸ˜‚ yeeting other riders off their motorbikes was too much fun.

Also thought the video cutscenes and menus looked kinda cool back then, especially compared to the simple ones in fighting games (tekken, versus etc). Actually thinking about it now, the music on Tekken's character select screen really made you feel like you were in an arcade

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All rhythm games and fighting games.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Tried for months but couldn't beat Rayman 2. Fuck you, razor beard.

[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] AndyLikesCandy@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

How do you define young?

I'm definitely too old but I loved Tarkov before cheaters ruined it.

I know some early-20's folks who grew up on DayZ.

Both games very hard to not suck at.

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I love "Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos". I even run its official fansite.

To this day, I have never finished the game because it's hard. I mostly play it like a sandbox space pirate simulator. :D

[–] gnzl@nc.gnzl.cl 1 points 2 years ago

I don't qualify as a "younger user of Lemmy" but I love games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat. I suck at all of them, except for Killer Instinct but I'm only kinda good with Combo.

[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Karate Champ. I probably spent hundreds of dollars on that game and never got past the third match, and don't have the slightest clue what would make a round kick score a full point or a half point... You could come up with strats that usually worked, but nothing ever worked reliably... Mortal Kombat you could come up with strats that would 100% get you double flawless, but it's grandpappy would toss all manner of randomness at your ass and fuck you up pretty reliably :)

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think there's any game I like that I'm good at

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like the answer is yes, but I can't remember what if any game it was. Its just the feeling is familiar.

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I recommend you go visit the Dwarf Fortress forums.

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

League of Legends

Damn that shit is hard

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Fortnite lol, but now I’d never wanna touch it again.

I def sucked at Quake Champions at first but now I think it’s the best shooter around

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I wasn't expecting to call myself young but I guess I never did experience any games that were just brutal though I did get into gaming a bit later in life. The earliest game I played was Warcraft 3 and the main campaign was easy enough, some custom maps were harder but nothing really hard so 20 years ago games weren't really harder. The hardest thing in any game I have experienced in about 20 years of gaming was Midir with a magic build in dark souls 3 which I never did beat.

[–] Mrderisant@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I'm bad at most games so yes

[–] JSens1998@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

For me it was Rainbow Six Siege.

Absolutely fell in love with the gun play (leaning in that game is my favorite mechanic in any game), destructible environments, operator gadget interactions, and repelling.

However, I was trash at the game because of slow reflexes due to bad eyesight, and poor aim. Relied on the gadgets while my team got the kills.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I could never beat PokΓ©mon Blue because I chose the grass starter.

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[–] randomthin2332@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Whoooaa talking about the NES for me it was always "Castlevania" and "legends of Zelda II", gawd damn they were so difficult when I was a child.

Tbf you didn't say video game :p so basketball was another, used to think I was so Kool playing it. But dayumn did I suck at it.

Current day would probably be call of duty, I always think I'm gonna slay, then I get killed an call it bullshit >!but I know it's not bullshit, it was me!<

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[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago

Young? How young? Because I'm older than most video game consoles...

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