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[–] kadu@lemmy.world 191 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"Instagram owner"

Have they paid the publication for this weird title? It's Meta. Are they so ashamed they believe calling it a Meta service would mean less users?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 155 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Also, are we all going to pretend that Meta isn't just Facebook, the company that sold all our data to Cambridge Analytica for a quick buck, a company who then used that data to direct target right leaning moderate, pump them full of anxiety and fear, and turn them into Trump devotees? A company that then later didn't store that data properly and leaked it, allowing thousands of identities to be stolen (including mine)? Meta / Facebook / Instagram are not good actors on the internet and we should be doing more to sully their name

[–] the_artic_one@programming.dev 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not saying that Facebook/Meta aren't terrible but this is a misunderstanding of what happened with Cambridge Analytica.

Facebook didn't sell anything to Cambridge Analyitica. Their API at the time allowed CA to gather information about you and all of your friends when you took one of their free personality quizzes (during the era when 90% of Facebook was people sharing personality quizzes).

When Facebook found out what CA had done, they fixed their API to prevent it from happening again (not because they cared about user privacy but because CA got a bunch of information from them that they could use to target advertisements on their own without paying FB to run ads) and covered it up so their users wouldn't know how massively negligent they had been with their data.

So it's not that Facebook was wantonly selling you data to shady characters so much as they were carelessly leaking your data to any shady characters who happened by.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

It may just be me but I feel like that is even worse. Because who knows who got a hold of it now.

[–] Grant@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Don't forget that the groups they targeted were as small as 10 people. Facebook is the reason our world is a shit as it is now. Fuck meta. Fuck Facebook. Fuck all of them. I despise them with deeper hatred than 99.99% of the things I have ever known

[–] electronicoldman@lemmy.fmhy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

I would gamble all the tea in China that they sold and continue to sell data to literally anyone with a big enough sack of cash.

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago

Don't forget that they paid teens to (unbeknownst to them) install a vpn and collect all their data, including message content

They also used a hacky mechanism bc they knew they were breaking the app store rules

Facebook / Meta / the instagram owner is evil as fuck

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[–] jplexer@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

Well I guess this is because it is called "Threads, an Instagram app"

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[–] palebluedot@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 2 years ago

Honestly, it's scary. For people that are unaware, there's an amazing resource on privacy-respecting alternatives to popular services and softwares: https://www.privacyguides.org. They are also on Lemmy if you have any question.

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mastodon is already pretty active, and is also part of the fediverse

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@social.fossware.space 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The unfortunate reality is that unlike us, most of the Twitter users could not care less about making choices, let alone privacy. Twitfaces can't calm down and talk without going ballistic and you think they'll willingly look into what federated social media is?

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alot of them are moving though thanks to twitter repeatedly fucking up, I've been seeing some artists and such on mastodon recently that were only on twitter before.

People just need to spread the word; there isn't a marketing campaign or anything for the fediverse after all.

[–] acrxhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We are the marketing campaign.

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[–] JesusTheCarpenter@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This post is Meta.

On a serious note, can we appreciate Meta's marketing team for the timing of this announcement. They waited for Twitter to bleed to kick it in the shins.

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[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Mastodon is the federated equivalent of twitter the same way lemmy can be considered the federated alternative of reddit. That's the nice Twitter alternative you are looking for.

[–] cavemeat@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is what I've been telling everyone. Don't go to threads, go to mastodon.

[–] Deed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This would be great but most people will not care and sacrifice data for convinence. Wish the government cared as much about us big tech as they did TikTok.

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[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you lost me at "Instagram"

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

That's impossible, Instagram already knows your gps coordinates...

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

installs app

Declines everything

"To use the app You need to allow-"

Uninstalls app

[–] athlon@lemm.ee 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Facebook makes a product that squeezes every last drop from your privacy? Nooooooo waaaay!

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Ahem. They're called Meta.

But seriously, fuck anything Zuckerberg owns.

[–] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I don't care what they all themselves, they are always going to be Facebook.

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

They gave up on the metaverse already so I don't think that name fits anymore.

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[–] tentphone@lemmy.fmhy.ml 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why the first reaction frame? Instagram is owned by Meta, of course they're going to have incredibly invasive data collection policies.

[–] noah@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

I expected some data collection but to be honest, have not expected as much (especially location etc., although this can be partly deactivated). But maybe I was too trusting in this case 😅

[–] IHateRedditAndSpez@programming.dev 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Instagram owner" just say Meta lol

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

We all know it's the Zucc, you don't gotta lie of omission to kick it.

[–] S147@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Great, another Meta privacy brea... I mean service I can stay away from.

[–] tappyturtle@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago

No no, you were right the first time

[–] doomkernel@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 years ago

Yeah.. Meta the owner of Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp wants to collect data from you? Shocker

[–] EcstaticHumility@lemmy.one 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mastodon is a viable option, but then again, this app does some basic automatic account creation from existing FB data and follow people from it. This alone will impress some non-tech journalist and praise it. We have become too lazy to get out of the burning house and save our life.

I wonder if any of that break some GPDR or California Data laws.

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[–] NoPolToday@beehaw.org 22 points 2 years ago
[–] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is anyone really supprised?

[–] stebo02@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not the fact they want to collect our data but it's the kind of data that's concerning.

"Sensitive info". Does Zucky want to collect data about the size of our peepees?

"Other data". Aka "literally whatever the fuck we want"

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago

Looks to me that Zuck is trying to compete with Truth Social -- no way this garbage will be Federated.

[–] Quills@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

At least we have all the fediverse micro-blogging section

And here!

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

twitter alternative, is mastodon, everything else is companies trying to cache with fediverse

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah I don’t get why they need all these permissions. Crazy

[–] luckystarr@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago

Because they want it. It's the main reason why they've built the app.

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[–] projectmoon@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Is this the alleged decentralized/federated Twitter app that Facebook has been working on?

[–] csigma@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yup, but it's not even integrated with ActivityPub yet

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[–] electronicoldman@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Am I hallucinating or didn't they have an app called Threads already? and it was a snapchat UI clone bolted on top of instagram backend?

[–] sim642@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

As of Twitter doesn't collect your data...

[–] rizoid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My big hope from this is that people might learn more about federated content and the fediverse in general. Then they can move away from stuff meta makes into the actual private internet.

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[–] s_v@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago
[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The ONLY good thing about the existence of Threads is that I'll finally be able to follow people from Instagram without actually having to use Instagram. Otherwise it's the largest honeypot of the entire Fediverse

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