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The U.S. vetoed a UN Security Council resolution Friday calling for a ceasefire to the fighting in Gaza.

The U.S. and Israel have opposed calls for a ceasefire, saying it would strengthen Hamas.

The vote was delayed for several hours over worries the U.S. would veto it. Diplomats from several Arab nations met with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to try to convince the U.S. to abstain from voting.

As a permanent member of the council, the U.S. has veto power, and had signaled it planned to block the resolution. The U.K. abstained from the vote, while the 13 other members of the council voted for it.

read more: https://www.semafor.com/article/12/08/2023/un-security-council-votes-on-gaza-ceasefire-resolution-amid-israel-hamas-conflict

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 112 points 1 year ago (4 children)

15 countries voting, they lost 13-1 (UK abstained), literally only the US voted against the resolution and yet they can veto it.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is clearly US and UK vs Gaza children.

"Oh hamas did this and that so lets kill them all, stop water food and aid and move 2 million around" is not justified ...

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was always the plan.

People are wising up but I doubt anything can stop it now.

Cat is out of the bag.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 1 year ago

Username checks out.

No but seriously, you're right.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It is clearly US and UK

The UK abstained, that is explicitly not supporting the US. It's not objecting either, but it's not supporting.

What I find interesting is that the PM Rishi Sunak talks in full support of Israel in national politics, yet on the international stage the stance is now slightly more neutral.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is a scam happened before, countries abstain because they know the US would veto. If UK didn't abstain I think the resolution would pass. That's why they did it, help to not let the resolution pass and it doesn't look bad as veto.

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[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Its a desperate attempt not to piss off even more voters. While still supporting party funders ideals.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does a "no" vote by the US automatically veto it? Or did they have to take an additional action? If the vote alone didn't veto it, that's the perfect place to hedge your bets. Vote no, then don't veto it. You can claim both sides then to appease everyone.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well that's dumb. But rules are rules.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

aww shucks we have to allow genocide its the rules

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It was more meant that they couldn't vote no then not veto. That being the case they should have at least abstained like the UK.

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US refuses to block Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 24 points 1 year ago

US actively supports Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't expect Joe Biden to act against his interests, but I also can't believe he thinks this is in his interest! Are there that many people in America who think this is the right thing to do? People danced when Henry Kissinger died, who fails to see the legacy of this?

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

He's banking on "trump bad, I good". So many idiots are falling for this and will chase you out of the room with their pitchforks if you said you won't vote for genocide Biden.

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[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These are times when I'm ashamed to be an American.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

I'm 70 years old. Of course it's not the first time. Cute meme though.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Nowadays I wonder if you guys have any times you aren't.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Trump years aside, I've rarely been so ashamed of my country. And I'm no spring chicken.

[–] yolo@r.nf 24 points 1 year ago

UN is the change.org of the real world. The idea is great but it only works on extremely rare cases. I know its purpose is to stop next world war but it should stop trying to seem like a platform for discussion as there is no discussion to be had when you give someone power to veto any resolution.

[–] rando895@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

No one should have veto power, it makes any organization extremely undemocratic. And given the American arsenal, it's already difficult to be democratic.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Genocide Joe is insatiable.

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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

The UN with their permanent members are a disgrace. All they do is uphold imperialism and say please don't do that.

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