Unlike libertarians, the fediverse isn't a bunch of pedophiles
this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2023
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I sure hope so. Fuck libertarians and fuck Meta!
To be clear, don't actually fuck libertarians. That's how we get more of them.
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Honest question? Are libertarians that bad? I don't agree with their ideology but are they that bad at a personal level too?
When your movement centers around not having "society" tell you whats right and wrong and you can do whatever you want, people who don't like being told the things they like are bad will be drawn to it.
Nah, libertarians are just a fascist co-option of an old anarchist movement which distorted into pure capitalist totalitarianism. Exactly the same as ancaps.
Pretty much any legit group that's against capitalism will be distorted to be pro-capitalism and a few suckers will participate.
Most so-called "Libertarians" are Republicans who want to smoke weed
Republicans who know just a bit too much about state-by-state age of consent laws
Ftfy
And employ people, even children, for the lowest wages possible.
But but but, those children should be able to choose whether or not they work for slave wages! If they were worth more than that the free market would pay them better anyway! It's an infringement of my sovereign citizenship to tell me I'm not allowed to scam and/or scare vulnerable minors into selling me their time and/or bodies!
That last bit very much grossed me out, and I'm confident you added it for a reason.
Probably because its accurate. They "think of the children", alright. Every. Damn. Night.
Not sure if this has anything to do with it, but Lemmy.ml is moderated by communists, and I don’t think they get along with libertarians.
To be clear, "libertarian" originally referred to what we would now call anarchists, or anarcho-communists. But at this point, the word has been pretty completely coopted by those on the right tending toward the very different ideology of anarcho-capitalism. Statist communists and anarchist communists have their own internecine conflicts, but both hate the current right wing libertarians.
They're pretty much polar opposite ideologies.
Yeah that would definitely cause an issue lol
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Libertarians will tell you this is not an anarcho-capitalist example because it obviously failed, but look up Kowloon Walled city for a good example of how an anarcho-capitalist society looks like.
To what degree is that like my mom saying "look at Venezuela for a good example of socialism"?
I agree that libertarianism is often short sighted, but I'm under the impression that your average libertarian believes that there should be a government with just enough power and responsibility to ensure that the citizens don't infringe on each other's "liberties". I don't think that's at all guaranteed in an anarcho-capitalist society, but I could be wrong.
I don't agree with libertarianism because it doesn't attempt to solve the tragedy of the commons whatsoever. Which is why I believe the fediverse can only be maintained through a culture of cooperation of its users.
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Some are just young and/or naive. If you don't think past the surface it makes sense. It's (American) conservativism with less hate. And it's another tool to manipulate people into supporting lower taxes on the rich.
It's appealing at a glance because the first thing kids notice about it is that you don't have to hate gays for no reason.
They are fine with removing regulations because "the market" will balance it out
I dont think there is a requirement for them to be "bad" but theres a lot of them who are and the ideolog kinda supports being a douche.
It's hard to answer this question because libertarians and socialists are like water and oil. That said, things like the end of intellectual property and abolition of the police are points that I see both sides agreeing (there might be more points, but I can't remember right now).
The problem is that aside from a few of the original writers (like Mises or Hayek, examples from the top of my head), most libertarians out there on par, or even more than tankies in their fanatism. But maybe that's a problem with most big movements anyway.
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All I see when looking at that logo is a pube
A good flag for the subject of Zuckerberg then!
Good thing it is banned in the EU or at least in the Netherlands 🇳🇱
EDIT: It is not banned it needs to be approved by GDPR
It isn't banned, they just haven't gone through GDPR approval yet
Whoops, my bad. I’m gonna correct myself.
Thank you for this integrity and wisdom. You win the Internet from long ago today! Lol
No point in fighting if my sources are not correct or It must be a Dutch thing that we must correct ourselves haha.
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I've been on Lemmy for a week. This is the best post so far, hands down.
L M A O
OP mvp with the OC
You need to put the threads logo over the lemmy rat 🤣
Facebook sucks, don't use any service made by them.
We already have mastodon.
Threads when isolated from this community: GOOD.
Threads when federated with this community: NOT GOOD.
It is your choice whether to use it or not. The Fediverse is like the Linux of social media, I like it more here and on other fedi apps than on the corporate social media.
The amount of people who believe themselves and their interests safe from the totalizing influence of these companies really breaks my mind.
Threads when isolated from this community: STILL NOT GOOD
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Wild wild west of meta
We need a hat with this on it!
Wait, shouldn't it be:
Threads on me harder daddy
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Liberty or death!
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